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1936 One Cent. Long Shot But I See A Dot

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I thought the size was right for the dot in question and that the placement seemed like it could be in the right spot. It isn't a proof strike but I did look at pictures of the discovered dot cents and thought there were other characteristics on the coin in question to the pictures I observed. I don't know enough about the variety to say one way or another. It does seem like it may have signs of heavy die polishing.
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You certainly have a "point"...
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I personally think it is too small to be the authentic dot. But it could be possible.
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I enlarged a few high quality images of the coins known as a comparison. The Dot seemed pretty small in comparison to the date above. On one picture it seemed to be half the size of the squared off end of the 3. I'm not an expert though so I'm just loosely basing my idea off of what I've viewed from Heritage and other sites.
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All joking aside.....Also post the obverse side at the same "dot location"..

Some dot coins have been played with by drilling to the "point" of pushing through from the other side..with a dull drill at the last step maybe..

Not saying that here though, but it's nice to see both sides and the complete coin on both sides is always best.

Your cent might just be the "right discolouration..at exactly the right spot"..
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If it was drilled it would be somewhere close to the bottom bust. I didn't notice any drill marks but it would have to be an incredibly small drill bit I would think.
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How small do you want it? Here's an old trades story. Time frame, before a war. The Germans thought they had the world's smallest drill, and sent it to their Canadian co-horts. The Canadian's sent it back with a hole drilled in it.

I don't think your coin has seen a drill.

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Do you have a pic of the whole Reverse? How much wear is there? I think that the lines are "cleaning" marks, not die polishing.
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Hflirn welecome I see you have a microscope. to check your coins. that is exactly what I use. here is an image of the real 1936 dot penny. that dot is very tiny. Hflirn if you or some one you might know. uses focus stacking. they can image that coin of yours. they can also do a 3D model which you can turn.that might help you. to confirm your coin as the 1936 dot penny.
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The Dot seemed pretty small in comparison to the date above



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I don't think your coin has seen a drill.


I agree completely..it's just a nicely placed bit of discolouration..but there are really small drills out there for those that might get the idea to play with a coin...

When you enjoy doing automotive projects or woodworking prodjects, you get to accumulate a lot of different tools..

I sometimes pre-drill delicate wood moldings before using fine finishing nails. These could also be used on coins I guess ...if someone wanted to..


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I soaked the coin in Verdicare to get up any dirt that could mess with what I'm looking for and am waiting for it to dry. This is the reverse at the moment. I marked a spot on the coin that has the Dot or whatever it is I'm questioning. Not what I call the best picture.
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I think the "Dot" on your coin is too far to
the left but will wait for a better picture.
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This is a photo I found on http://www.coinsandcanada.com/coins...nt-1876-1941
The dot seemed further to the right than 2 other specimens. Again, not saying mine is or isn't. Just an observation. I would think that the Dot on an actual specimen would have characteristics in itself since it was punched to a die.
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The three dot pennies were originally owned by mint employees, chances are they were special creations for their own enjoyment, doubt there are any in the wild.
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I wouldn't call this coin a found in the wild random coin. I bought a collection of Canadian coins and tokens and this was with all of it. However, I do enjoy the "bucket" at coin stores lol! The position of the dot is not directly in line. It doesn't appear far off either and does seem to be the right size and also spherical. I was going to assume a die chip but wouldn't think that shape would be symmetrical. I'll try to find out more on the topic. The position thing would have deterred me more if it wasn't for the photo I posted of the 3rd specimen and because of the shape and size. Still couldn't say one way or another.
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this is not a 1936 dot cent IMO.
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