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General Issue Coins Or Commemorative/Manufactured Coins?

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 Posted 12/12/2017  6:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 999fine to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I often find myself in a quandry...

I have a fun WW coin collection, all in 2x2s, annotated, and in boxes alphabetically.

The problem rears when I take out a country, and string them across my desktop. By denomination. The urge hits to put them in pages for a 3-ring binder. I succumb. Then I hit an online catalogue to see what I don't have.

So I fill in the spots depending on how much I want a piece. Trying to stay with regular issues. But, dang, a commem appears. Then another. I am torn from my initial direction to stay with regular issue coins.

I dare not collect with innocence countries which mass produce commems. Ahh, the allure of silver (now below $16/oz). I must stick to my original thinking.

So, where is this going you might ask (if you haven't bailed yet?)

Are there any (non-us or Canada) collectors who shun commems and stick strictly to regular issues?

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 Posted 12/12/2017  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 999fine to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To clarify, I am coming from a type-set arena.
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 Posted 12/12/2017  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coopertron5000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I stick to regular issues. I aim to collect type sets, so will stick to a basic set for a certain period. I do have the odd commemorative issue that I've found amongst job lots and kept. But these don't fit my main aim, so stay in the box rather than album.
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 Posted 12/19/2017  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Check wheatiefan's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add wheatiefan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At first I was confused by your post.

I thought you were talking about circulating commemoratives. That is, coins that were made for a special occasion but actually circulated. A USA example would be the 1776-1976 coins. I consider these to be legitimate type coins worthy of pursuing or keeping.

If what you are talking about is commemoratives that are made just for collectors and were never intended for circulation then I don't consider them an interest. Part of collecting coins from around the world is that people from around the world actually used them! When browsing numista you can click a button to remove all of these.

Another gray area is a series of circulating commemorative coins, similar to the USA 50 State Quarters and successors. There are countries like Spain, Poland, Thailand with so many of these coins that I can't possibly keep up, and honestly don't want to. In those cases I might just keep one of each series as an example, just like I wouldn't be surprised for a foreign collector to keep only one representative quarter.

So I guess the first step is to decide what type of commemoratives you are talking about - circulating or not intended for circulation (NIFC).

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 Posted 12/20/2017  10:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xlrcable to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With US coins the set of noncirculating commemoratives seems well defined, but is that true with all countries? In a 20th century Mexico type set there are several coins with total mintages of say 100,000 or 200,000 - more than most US classic commems but far less than other Mexican issues of the period. They mark the anniversaries of historical events, and you see them mostly well preserved. Despite looking a lot like commemoratives I think most collectors include them. I'm puzzled myself about how they were considered by the public at the time.

Just playing devil's advocate; in general I agree with the other responses above.
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Part of collecting coins from around the world is that people from around the world actually used them!


Agreed, but isn't it a bit ironic folks tend to demand them unused?
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I appreciate all the input. Thank you.
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 Posted 12/22/2017  01:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Part of the problem is the lack of a clear distinction in some countries between "commemorative" and "regular issues".

For example, many countries have participated in the UN FAO "Grow More Food" coin programme. Are these "commemoratives"? To me, a "commemorative" has to, well, commemorate something. Some FAO coins were intended to circulate, some were issued as low-cost NCLT, with some of the profits from sales going to the FAO; most were issued in mintages so high it's impossible for someone who wasn't actually in-country to know whether they actually circulated or not.

Another example of ambiguous coins are the American "fifty states" and " ATB" quarters. Are they "commemorative"? If so, they don't seem to actually commemorate anything other than "America has states". So, does each and every one of the quarters belong in an "American type set"? The general consensus seems to be "yes, they do". And they're cheap enough and readily available, even here in Australia, so the only consideration to keeping them or not is the space required.
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