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Help With Two 1891 Canadian Large Cents

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I need help with these two Canadian Large cents. Are they L.date or S.date. What would the grade be? Thanks for any help.
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LDLL. Can't give a grade opinion without seeing the obverse.
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Top one looks VF-20, bottom one looks AU-50
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Sorry about. I'am a new member and first time posting. I didn't know how to post photos. I think I've got it now.
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Welcome. Both are LDLL and I agree with johnny's grades.
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Agree VF-20 and AU-50.



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I agree with the grades & both are LLLD Obv 2's.
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Thanks to all for the help.
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The Small/Large distinctions are easy once you learn them (images courtesy of Heritage Auctions).

On the "Small" features, the upper and lower curves of the 9 are almost even on the left, and the 9 looks nicely proportional. The ball on the lower loop of the 9 is rounded at the top. The leaves do not come close to touching either the inside beads or outside denticles:

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On the "Large" features, the upper loop of the 9 is distinctly larger than the lower curve, extending farther to the left and seeming out of proportion to it. The ball on the lower loop of the 9 is flattened at the top. The leaves outside the vine touch the denticles in many cases, and those inside the vine are very nearly touching the beads:

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Sorry about. I'am a new member and first time posting.




For a first time poster, the above pics are really well done.

Many seasoned ebay sellers could learn a lot from you..
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On the large leaves, the leaves at 5, 6, & 8:00 touch (or almost touch) the beads. On the smalls, the leaves are well away from the beads.

And, if it is a "small leaves", then IT HAS TO BE a small date. There is NO "small leaves, large date".
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What great pictures. Thank you.
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