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Can You Identify This Quarter?

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 Posted 05/18/2008  7:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Elimist to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found a funky quarter in my change.

It is a 2003 new york State Quarter. It has absolutely no ridges on the side of the coin, nor does it have any evidence that it once had ridges. It is just smooth. Plus, it does not have that bi-metallic clad look that quarters have. It is just a copper collored, non ridged side.

Another odd thing. The rim of the coin is very pronounced off the surface of the coin. The lip is probably 3 times thicker on both sides of the coin than normal. If is very noticiable if you feel it and is definitely visual different.

Now, I know your going to flash that little sign at me. Yeah, I can probably get pictures, but there not going to be very high quality or very close up (I do not believe my digital camera has a 'macro' function).

Anybody have any ideas what caused this? Is it like, an extra hard die press? Or maybe the coin was rimmed twice?
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 Posted 05/18/2008  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
any way to weigh it?
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 Posted 05/18/2008  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My guess is the coin was "rimmed" twice. But the second one was outside of the mint. The reeding on the State Quarters is struck with the third die called the collar. As the obverse and reverse dies strike the planchet the collar comes up from around the lower or anvil die. As the striking squeezes the metal it flows into the collar creating the reeding. In order for a coin to be rimmed twice it must be struck twice. And the second strike would not make the coin's diameter smaller. Only the Presidential dollars have a separate operation on the edge. My guess is your coin was caught in something that rolled and squeezed the edge after it left the mint. The weight will still be correct but check the diameter of the coin compared to another quarter.
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 Posted 05/18/2008  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elimist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I'll just try to get some pictures. Maybe it will be somewhat enlightening.

Plus, the digital scale I have is not as accurate as I previously thought. It does not go into fractions of grams, nor do I know if it rounds to the nearest gram or not, or if its in the least bit accurate. But it is reading at 6 grams.

Do you think there would be any intrinsic value to this if it is kind of like an error coin from the mint? I know double dies, which in my opinion a very insignificant mix up, can go for loads. Or is it just a crappy coin? Is it worth taking it to the coin shop next time I go?
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 Posted 05/18/2008  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NGiles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Copper colored? Does it show any signs of corosion due to acid?

And yes,
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If you do a forum search on the word "spooned", you'll find a bunch of coins that look a lot like what you're describing - like the one discussed in this thread.

Basically, the edge has been "rolled", either deliberately or by some kind of machinery. Several scenarios have been postulated:
- Spooning. Not easy to do with a coin as hard as a clad quarter, but someone with way too much time on their hands might try it anyway.
- Stuck in a dryer. Often, " Dryer Coins" will have considerable detail on one or both sides worn away, as well as the "rolled rim".
- Excessive time spent in casino. Overuse in a slot machine will tend to have the same effect, without damaging the two sides as much.
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 Posted 05/18/2008  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Elimist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, wow Sap, cool.

Thats definitely the coin I have, just replace it with a new york design. Exact same condition and deformity.

And its funny you said this could be done in a casino slot machine. I live in Bossier City Louisiana right next to Shreveport Louisiana. Nobody outside of the south knows where these two cities are of course but they both have several casinos.

Aprreciate it
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 Posted 05/18/2008  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi All,

Sap got all the likely scenarios!

Thanks,

Bill
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