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Hello All, going through some pennies and found this interesting one. I believe this is from a Grease Filled Die. I am correct in this? What I think is cool that it is on the obverse and reverse of the coin.   Let me know what you think. |
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I agree about the grease on the rev, but not sure on the obv (maybe some flattening from PMD too?). "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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Right, the reverse is pretty obvious, the obverse less so.
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Rest in Peace
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Exactly identified. Good Eyes.
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I agree about the grease on the rev, but not sure on the obv (maybe some flattening from PMD too?). Spence - I thought about PMD on the obverse, but I can see no evidence of it. |
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I can see no evidence of it. Some of the other letters in the obv inscription seem to have some partial flattening damage. I think that this may come from automatic rolling machines. Look for example at the letters I and N in the word IN. On the other hand, the U, S, and T in TRUST may have a been only partially struck and then flattened further by the machinery. In the end, it is an interesting coin, but I'm not sure that it would sell for a premium over face value. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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Just a Struck Through Grease issue. The more grease, the less the devices show. If it were PMD we would see metal movement on the devices. None present. The devices are tapered. If they were, they would not release from the die after the strike. The grease begins filling in the deepest part of the dies first. The more grease, the more blockage of the devices normal size. Thus on the coin above, the Grease Fill is the strongest part of the motto on the right.  |
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@coop, well I defer to you completely. I guess what I was thinking was that some metal might have been smushed toward the periphery of the coin (red arrows below):  However, based on what you are saying, these letters were filled with grease to varying degrees so that some parts of the letter were more struck up than other parts. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Bedrock of the Community
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Coin wrapper damage is more towards the center:  Note the disturbance of the metal? Quarter coin wrapper damage:  On the ATB Quarters the reverse devices are incuse, so it looks like the damage flows behind the devices, when it is affecting the fields near the date area. Damage on areas near the rim often happens from vending machine, counting machine issues. But on this one, it looks like more metal is missing that is disturbed. The missing metal is spread out else where on the coin on a Struck Through Grease error. Weight would be normal. (except for wear on the coin from circulation) |
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Lesson learned. Thank you!
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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coop - thanks for the explanation and the pictures with it.
always learn something from your posts!!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Trying to help others see what I see, makes a better longer impact than a yes or no answer. I see so much growth on this forum because of one thing. Explaining what I see, using images that can be copied and reused here helps the forum growing. So all want to share. I applaud every ones efforts here. We do it because we are a coin family.
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