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1972-D Kennedy Half Dollar Coin Without FG Initials

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 Posted 01/08/2018  4:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Kehinnc to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this coin today but would like to go the extra effort to verify that it is original. Which grading company is recommended fir this type of coin? I've attached 3 pictures taken with my iPhone.
All thoughts and replays are appreciated.
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 Posted 01/08/2018  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First - don't fall into the current trap that grading companies are the answer to everything. The cost to have this graded would never equal the value of the coin if it is a legit no FG- unless it were totally flawless - which I think even in your pics I can tell this one has seen circulation.

Second, the grading companies are pretty terrible at actually identifying No FG halves. I have seen MANY on ebay in slabs that say "No FG" on the label, and yet in the auction pics you can see a ghosted FG right where it should be. A ghosted FG is not a true No FG b/c the only reason the FG is not crisp on it is that the mint polished the dies too harshly and wiped away the details of the FG to a certain extent.

With the 1972-D it is believed there actually was a die made where the FG was never engraved into the die. Coins made from those dies are actual No FG coins. In 1982 they did the same. Following is a pic of a slabbed 82 that obviously was made with a normal, but polished die.


A true no FG has no trace of an FG (which is why its called a no FG!). The "experts" are lacking in this department.

If you can get a sharper picture of the area in question, there are several of us on here who could verify it for you.


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#1) there is a bit still there, it has to be all gone to count.

#2) Coin needs to be in a lot better shape to grade it. Yours is circulated and looks it.

#3) The Fees will be minimum $40, max $90+ depending how/who you go thru. If all coin would be worth in REAL WORLD realizations is $30, you lose big time. Needs to be a realistic value of $200 before submissions.
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https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...tor.all.html

I'm sure not an expert on the subject, but was thinking die polishing played a roll in the sought after missing initials.

With the current images I can't make initials out one way or the other. That said I can make out what seems to be heavy circulation wear, which means lower grade or less desirable. Thanks, Doug.

http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/147888

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I found three last year from roll searching that were true No FG and sent them in to be graded. All came back MS condition and sold the 1972 for over $700 on an auction site. The other two were around $150. Sold all three after fees of selling for around $925. Grading fees I figured were around $30 per coin. All in, I was way ahead.
BUT, I sent another 3-4 in that I thought were true No FG and they came back regular. Be very careful that you see no HINT of FG if you send them in for grading. I have another 1982 I'm sending in this week to get graded.
Good luck!
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Great replies with reality checks about the likelihood of not being a true "No FG". The hunt continues.
I have other coin questions along with some desire to sell a few.
Many thanks to all.
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shotgung - what auction site did you use? I found one last week and would like to get it graded and then sell it. Also, I have never sent a coin in to be graded before. Do I need to go through a dealer? If so, is there a fee associated with that, aside from the grading service fee?
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To CCF Znap187! Another member will have to answer your question, because shotgung has been offline since August 13th of last year.
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