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Going Through My New Jar Of Old Pennies. This One Is Quite Confusing. LWC

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Does anyone know what this is?
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@kg, there should be a corresponding flat spot on the obv. of this coin. This looks like a counterstamp, but only being a single letter, it is about impossible to know why it was applied. If you are interested in seeing other counterstamps, I recommend this ongoing CCF thread:

http://goccf.com/t/126486
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Looks like it is raised, but either way it is not a mint error. Someone playing around messing up coins.
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Ok weird @coop. While I see what you are saying, it looks incuse to me. Hopefully @kareng will weigh in about that.
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Thanks for the info. I looked up the counterstamp website, very interesting. I ordered a clip on phone lens today. When it arrives I will take new pictures.
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I'm not sure "damaged" and counterstamped are the same thing.
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I'm not sure "damaged" and counterstamped are the same thing.


If it's not, what would you call it?
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To the Forum.
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Possibly a kid having fun in the metalwork class at school - we used to have these metal punches for letters of the alphabet and used to make name tags with them.
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If it's not, what would you call it?

Depends on why it was counterstamped. This doesn't apply to the US but sometimes coins are counterstamped to indicate a revaluation, or sometimes to make them legal tender in an area where they weren't before. In those cases it would not be damage. (Such coins though should not be called counterstamped, they are countermarked.)
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Depends on why it was counterstamped. This doesn't apply to the US but sometimes coins are counterstamped to indicate a revaluation, or sometimes to make them legal tender in an area where they weren't before. In those cases it would not be damage. (Such coins though should not be called counterstamped, they are countermarked.)


Yes, I see your point. Like Trade dollar chop marks graded in slabs. The TPG'ers are not indicating damage or detailed by the counterstamps, countermarks or chop marks.

I would have thought, "anything" struck on a coin "after" the minting process would have been called damage or detailed...I guess not.
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If it is counter stamped a view on the obverse will be pushed through and flatted on the obverse side. But people do add metal to coins:
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I finally received my magnifier. Hope these pictures are better!
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