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Cleaning 50% Silver, 50% Copper Coins

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 Posted 05/22/2008  04:48 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add infocorp to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is it possible to clean coins which are 50% silver and 50% copper?

If so, what treatment solution is suitable?

Note that I would only propose cleaning coins that are particularly dirty & unattractive.
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 Posted 05/22/2008  11:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I have a few NZ Florins of that composition, which I suspect is particularly prone to tarnishing. While some people "dip" silver coins, I haven't liked the results I've seen as it tends to wash out details that should be naturally toned. And in this case, the coin is 50% copper--a metal that is even less forgiving to any chemical cleaning. However, in the case of accumulated dirt, there are solutions to soak the coin which will not attack those metals. Even a gentle cleaning is tricky, because removing dirt may reveal an uneven color and your cleaning work.

My method is soaking the coin in denatured alcohol overnight, then gently working dirt loose from the devices with a soft tool that will not scratch the coin. But even a gentle "conservation" is a tricky affair with mixed results--I only try it on my coins where I can risk it. Another method is to soak the coin in mineral oil over a longer period. If you do a search you'll find a lengthy discussion of the various methods, as well as those products and methods to avoid.
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 Posted 05/22/2008  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add infocorp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your response KurtS. The coins in question is indeed a New Zealand Crown. Trial cleaning with solutions intended for silver and for copper/bronze have been unsuccessful.
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 Posted 05/24/2008  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've found ammonia to clean silver/copper pretty fast. I only use it on bullion coins. I wouldn't on a good coin.
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 Posted 05/27/2008  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I really don't like cleaning a coin but if you must, I suggest you try the usual Acetone method first. Check out this web site for Acetone. Not sure where they might be since things moved all over in different forums. Acetone is basically the safest method to try first. Distilled water is another very safe method. If you try any Alcohol product, be carefull since most are only a small % of the actual Alcohol and that substance may contain numerous other substances not even mentioned on the lable.
Be carefull on cleaning any coin that may be of some value. You could ruin or even distroy that coins value.
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If you try any Alcohol product, be carefull since most are only a small % of the actual Alcohol and that substance may contain numerous other substances not even mentioned on the label.
Quite possibly, yet I've tested the denatured alcohol I use on junk copper coins without any adverse effects, and then found it successful in loosening large dirt buildups--but only in cases where I decided no harm would be done. I've tried acetone too, but found it trickier to use as it evaporates so quickly. All said, it's still a risky process.
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 Posted 05/28/2008  08:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
True KurtS that it will take off some dirt. Acetone is a little on the dangerous side due to flash fire possibility of course. Just make sure that whatever you do use on a coin, you rinse with distilled water and blow dry. This should assure the removal of any contaminates left from the evaporation of Alcohol.
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The ole "cleaning the coins" thing .......hummmm........I still say that there is no "if you must"........I say just don't ever clean coins.....if you're well practiced at it and very proficient at the task......then okay......but if not....DON'T DO IT !!.....or at least use "practice coins" that are garbage and practice with those a few hundred times first........
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 Posted 06/03/2008  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add limted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dont clean any coins could do more damage than good
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Has anyone tried perfumer's, artisan's, or formulator's alcohol? For the purpose here is there any difference?

Artisan's Alcohol INCI: SD40B Alcohol 200 proof, hexylene glycol
Perfumer's Alcohol INCI: SDA 40B 200 proof, isopropyl myristate, isopropyl alcohol
Formulator's Alcohol INCI: SDA 40B 200 proof, Propylene Glycol, Isopropyl alcohol

We have this stuff in the house since we make soap/spa groovy stuff. Just curious.
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 Posted 06/09/2008  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Odd answer about the perfume types of solutions. I say this since as a chemist I try all kinds of stupid things on coins or other metals. Also, as an avid flea market person I find things rather cheap. One such purchase was a very strong substance in a black bottle but was cheap. I began using quantities to clean really corroded or dirty coins but ones of little value. I also used it to clean my desk, some tools, etc. Then my Son saw me doing this and almost had a fit. Appears that the stuff, Drakkar Cologne is supposed to be extreamely expensive. Gave the rest to my Son to shut him up.
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 Posted 06/10/2008  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Appears that the stuff, Drakkar Cologne is supposed to be extreamely expensive.
And so 1980's! I still have an unused bottle of that under my sink. Now, thanks to Carl, I have a new use for it!
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 Posted 06/12/2008  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noel biscocho to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all,

Just need an opinion about an old silver coin werein I brought it to a jewelry shop for for plating. Would the value diminished by doing so.

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noel biscocho
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Yes, having a coin plated will reduce its numismatic value.
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