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New Member
United States
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hello, found this coin, all I know is its called a draper bust(googled year of the coin)... can anyone help me find out if this is a real coin or not? tried to find out, but can't find much... even if it is authentic, what do I do with it? lol. I have no experience with coins, just happen to find this. thanks in advance!   *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. *** |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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 I'm not an expert on these coins (Draped Bust Dollars), but it appears to be a fake to me. There is a large market for counterfeits of these for obvious reasons. In some cases, even counterfeits are made of silver, so don't toss it in the garbage! Hopefully, someone who knows more can confirm or counter my assessment.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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If my memory serves me correctly, the original for one of these holds the record at auction for US$13 million.
I have no idea if yours is genuine, but it is worth finding out. Don't hold your breath though. The scarcity of the original means the chance that yours is original is very low.
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Moderator
 United States
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to CCF. First try the magnet test,if it sticks to a magnet it is a fake. Then we need to know the weight. Also,click on U.S. Coin Facts on the left of page for more info. John1  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
709 Posts |
Did some research. A 1794 dollar similar to yours sold for US$10million in Jan 2013.
I suggest you take some photos of the edge and add them to this post. What is the diameter?
For a coin potentially this valuable, dont handle it with your bare skin. Use some thin cotton gloves or similar. When handling it, hold it over something in case you drop it. If the coin is genuine and you drop it, a new dent in the edge could make a big difference in value.
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Valued Member
United States
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If you go to PCFS CoinFacts and install the App you will have access to a very good tool for comparisons.
Navigating Draped Bust Dollar,then Type 1, Small Eagle, you find the three varieties for 1796.
It appears that your coin is an attempt to reproduce the 1796 Small Date, Lg. Letters variety. One giveaway that it is fake is in the stars surrounding the obverse. To the left of the date, look at the position of the first star (S1) in relation to the hair. Also notice that S9-S15 along the right edge are different, with the discrepancy not likely due to wear on your high-grade example.
You could also examine the digits in 1796 and note that the spacing is slightly different.
All of this is contingent upon there being only one obverse die used for this variety, which I am nearly certain was the case.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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One of the most common fake coins to pop up here annually.
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Valued Member
United States
56 Posts |
Under this same topic, for a different coin (1888 SL25C), is it ok to post the ebay I.D.# for an item in question in order to get opinions? This is not an attempt to sell, but I know there are limitations here on referring to outside sites. |
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United States
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"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Smart buyers learning grading and eye appeal (which would be all of us) ask questions BEFORE buying. Just make a new post for each coin in question.
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Valued Member
United States
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Thank you for the quick reply. I had looked over those guidelines. Would have thought the preference for keeping topics organized would deem staying here, as the op's title is identical to my concern.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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To the Forum. |
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United States
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Quote:
Would have thought the preference for keeping topics organized would deem staying here, as the op's title is identical to my concern. Yep a valid point. However, splitting similar questions into discrete threads lets CCF users quickly search for and examine threads for research purposes. Also, while I am still up here on my soapbox, having titles that describe the specific item are much more helpful than ones that only pose a question about that item. From the CCF tutorial: Quote:Let's say you need help attributing an 1896 Morgan dollar.... Bad: Need help with coin Better: Need help with Morgan dollarGood: Need help with 1896 Morgan dollarAwesome: Need help with VAM on 1896 Morgan Dollar It may seem like a lot of busywork at first, but it really does help. Thx! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Just curious ... Where did you "find" this coin?
I think that will be helpful in answering questions.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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100% Counterfeit. Besides what was reported by cdgguy on the obverse, their are discrepancies on the reverse as well. Have seen several of these on ebay where someone is trying to sell them as genuine for a "bargain" price. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks like a genuine mac keyboard of some flavor...
Does that explain the issue? It's a perfectly reasonable answer to the topic title...
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