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Key Canada Large Cents

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 Posted 01/27/2018  7:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add gg_cu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone!

I'm new here. I've been collecting coins since elementary school, but gave up on my collection for a while when I went to university. Before I left I was trying to build a set of nicer large cents 1858-1920, and had almost completed it, minus a couple including key dates. Anyhow, now that I'm out of school, I got back into the hobby and wanted to finish the set. Here are the three key dates I've recently acquired, and I wanted some help with the grading (to see if they are worth the pretty penny I spent on them... hehehe...)

Thanks!

1858
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1859
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1907H
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 Posted 01/27/2018  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, welcome.

I started around a year ago on the same quest, determined to build my set so far as I could solely from what I could find in "bargain" and "junk" bins (an 1858 in VG/F actually turned up in one such). Anyway, I'm down to needing both 1891 types, an 1897, a 1900, and that tougher 1907-H.

I don't see anything to dislike about your recent acquisitions. That 1858 appears to have traces of the original luster. The 1859 is as a date easy enough to come by - my question would be are you intent in having all the subtypes, like the wide 9 overdate, and both types of the double punches? Regardless, if I saw any of these three in holders certified as AU, I don't know if I could plausibly argue against that sort of grade.



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 Posted 01/28/2018  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canacoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cant say I disagree on the last paragraph.
In particular the 07 . A tough find in that state .
All 3 are beauties .
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 Posted 01/28/2018  05:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
..to CCF...

Beauties of coins especially, that 1858...
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 Posted 01/28/2018  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It seems strange to see a narrow '59 implied as a "key date". The '58 has enough rim dings to knock it down to a 50. The '59 has marks on both the Obv & Rev that takes it down to the same 50. The '07 has beautiful fields and what appears to be a little drawer or holder rub that has taken off the toning/luster and maybe a little weakly struck. I'd give it a 60.
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 Posted 01/28/2018  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gg_cu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, all!

I put the 1859 in there because I never found a decent one bargain hunting and paid a bit more for it than most of my other pennies. I don't think I'll venture into all the '59 varieties.
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 Posted 01/28/2018  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice lot, but the rims on the '58 might well "detail" it



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 Posted 01/28/2018  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gg_cu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Detail? As in damaged? Why would that be?

Thanks!
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 Posted 01/29/2018  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canacoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Details" is a generic term used by collectors and TPG's to describe any flaw
on the coin( mostly high grade coins) that happened after minting.
Dings , scratches etc. ( Someone correct me if inaccurate)
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 Posted 01/30/2018  08:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add papeldog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the site gg_cu you have a very nice start to your large cent collection with these coins congrats. By not going after the 1859 varieties you are missing out on all the fun of the hunt and the treasures you will find the biggest reward is the satisfaction of finding said varieties good luck on your quest.
PS: this 1893 TP9 is another key coin look for die crack obverse between DEI and Gratia key marker for this coin although this one is one with no die crack even harder to find than die crack one.

Canacoins here's a coin that come back with AU Details the coin has a small nick on the top edge still a nice coin but has a nick in rim (some have cleaned on them) as well if they have been cleaned. Picture of one from PCGS
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 Posted 01/30/2018  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Phil310 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Very nice coins!


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By not going after the 1859 varieties you are missing out on all the fun of the hunt and the treasures you will find the biggest reward is the satisfaction of finding said varieties good luck on your quest.


I agree 100% with papeldog. You can still cherrypick these varieties.

Dr. Haxby's catalog of 1859's will help if you decide to persue them.

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 Posted 01/30/2018  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gg_cu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the additional info! Would you think the rim damage on the '58 is too severe to be graded (I was thinking of taking that one and the '07H to ICCS).

The '59 varieties seem too daunting for me haha. I did find a couple in junk bins at my local coin stores but they were all too banged up or corroded for me to be interested. Maybe I should take another look...
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I had the 1893 TP9 I posted in a ICCS flip first but wanted it in a PCGS hard slab. ICCS never mentioned anything about the rim damage at all in the note area other than it was a triple punched 9.
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