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Shiiling Mark - Die Error Or Post-Strike Damage ?

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 Posted 01/31/2018  4:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinOS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This old shilling is in pretty good nick, it has a little line/mark thingamabob on the reverse as shown.

It doesn't look like post-mint damage to damage to me, I've seen a lot of scratches - but none like that.

Then again, I'm only an amateur and defer to the judgment of the real experts here.

Any help here would be sincerely appreciated.

Cheers

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Could be struck through thread.
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 Posted 01/31/2018  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echidna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, struck thru
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Thanks !

I read about strike through's just now and it seems to depend on the type of debri and what it did to the coin as to changing it's collectors value. Might be a fragment of a brush bristle or something similar.

This 1911 shilling is a very high grade so I'd be a bit disappointed if that takes it's value down a lot.
Will that mint error hurt it's value significantly?

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 Posted 02/01/2018  05:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like that shilling (I nearly purchased it but it had sold by the time my pay was available). Not a bad pickup for $270 and that mark shouldn't devalue the coin that much.
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Not a bad pickup for $270 and that mark shouldn't devalue the coin that much.


Thanks for that advice.

USD270 is okay here, It should return an MS grade, amazing detail and quality, but we shall see.
Doesn't hurt to be optimistic.


Have a pleasant evening.
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I like that shilling (I nearly purchased it but it had sold by the time my pay was available


You still can buy it if you so wish.
It is however expensive.
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 Posted 02/25/2018  07:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nealeffendi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I already have four 1911 shillings in Unc condition (including one that will grade 64 or 65 that I picked up recently at a very low price).
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Excellent, good job.

Please post a pic of the coin if it gets an MS65 as only a half dozen 1911's with that grade exist.

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UPDATESorry to disappoint you CoinOS but this shilling is almost certainly a high grade counterfeit made by the die transfer method. The reason I know this is because your 1911 shilling is an exact match with 2 that I have. One of the 2 that I have has a flaw on the obverse rim at IN and that exact same obverse flaw also exists on a 1916 shilling and again on a 1925 shilling. I found 7 fake shillings in my collection last night by careful examination (a fourth date is the 1914 shilling). Plus my 1923 threepence is also a match for the threepence that you posted in another thread. I purchased these 8 coins over a period starting in mid 2014. My 2 examples of the 1914 shilling match another example posted on the Australian Coin Forum last year (Echidna, Nevol and myself are all regulars there and none of us identified that it was fake at the time and we are all experienced collectors). And yes one of the fake 1911s in my collection was the choice one that I hoped would make MS65 Just rechecked the 2 examples of the 1914 shilling and found one also had the rim flaw at IN.
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is because your 1911 shilling is an exact match with 2 that I have.


No photos of two exact matching shillings?
They'd help ..


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Sorry to disappoint you


Interested - not disappointed.
Are they for sale?

Cheers
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