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1848 Seated Liberty 50 Cent ANACS EF 45 Possible RPD

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I want to first ID if this coin is one of the following varieties as listed in CoinFacts:


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These are the possibilities according to CoinFacts:


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mdpmedia, If you post pics of the obverse and reverse we will be able to positively identify the coin for you. From what I can see it could be the WB-104 (WB-12) due to the doubling of the one repunched south. If that is the WB-104 then it is an R-6 and possibly an R-7.
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Pictures of full obverse and reverse, please.
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tough obv. shot through plastic:

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It is still hard to determine without better, clearer images. I will send you a pm with some details that might help.
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The die varieties are usually on the shield. Doubled shields
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I can't see the shield on your images to tell. But when you look at these on PCGS they have a few listed. The date area doesn't show any RPD that I can see. It looks like the die was roughed up around the date devices. the raised areas maybe just debris on the die. (I wondered about rust marks, then realized rust would be raised on the die, incuse on the coin. So I ruled that out.)
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The 1848 half WB-104 Show a bit on the '1', but your coin just show one area affected. (above the bottom crossbar)
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But the angle of 1 matches. (tilted slightly left at the top)
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It'll be interesting to absorb the extra 1 % increase in value charge for anything valuable PCGS discovers for a 'crossover' w/ variety attrib. from ANACS.

This will be my first 'crossover' ever submitted so I'm looking forward to get it sent out next week.

keep ya posted....










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DNC

ouch

We still do not have any light shown to clarify the reason for the difference in the colors of both sides.

Could PCGS still have already taken a True View photo so everyone could see a better visual portrayal?

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I've never had a situation like this being that I attempted a crossover with PCGS from ANACS and a received a DNC (did not cross) designation.

I spent what I consider to be too much money on S/H and general non-refundable grading fees with PCGS.

Firstly, would PCGS normally have performed a variety check even if they knew that this coin was not going to cross over?

Does PCGS have any obligation to give me the variety designation if performed since I already paid for it to be done?

Secondly, what sort of remedies should I expect with ANACS since they did not grade this coin accurately as being 'cleaned'? If I wanted them to regrade this coin with a variety check, how much out-of-pocket costs should I expect to incur if any?
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Firstly, would PCGS normally have performed a variety check even if they knew that this coin was not going to cross over?


If you paid for variety attribution, and they had slabbed it, they should have mentioned the variety. Since they didn't slab it, the variety attribution fee should probably have been refunded. You might want to contact PCGS's customer service and see if you can get a refund for the attribution fees that they did not earn. If they say they did attribute it than they need to tell you what the attribution was.


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Secondly, what sort of remedies should I expect with ANACS since they did not grade this coin accurately as being 'cleaned'?


ANACS owes you nothing. They rendered an opinion, and in their opinion it was not cleaned. If someone else thinks it is cleaned, that's their opinion. If you resubmitted it to ANACS and they change their mind and decided it was cleaned, then they would you something.
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Does PCGS have any obligation to give me the variety designation if performed since I already paid for it to be done?


with Conder101 - speak with PCGS customer service to get a refund for the variety attribution fee.


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Secondly, what sort of remedies should I expect with ANACS since they did not grade this coin accurately as being 'cleaned'?


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And you have to consider that ANACS may have graded accurately and PCGS got it wrong calling it cleaned. PCGS is not infallible, as hard as that is for some people to believe.
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