1980lmc- Coin Weighs The Same As A Normal 1980- Now What?

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If these don't work- I give up-!

The coins weigh the same- now what?

Late Die Deterioration from the MINT as Mr.BJ Neff had originally stated.?

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Just went over this coin one more time to make sure I didn't miss anything and especially around the rim as "COOP" had stated in his take on this, that there appeared to be some kind of damage on the rim- like the coin was held in a vise or with a pair of pliers as it was being altered etc.

Here are some NEW pictures of the rim that I spotted tonight- based on "COOP'S" excellent prior observation.

Sure looks like this coin was held by a pair of pliers or something- the damaged area's match up perfectly on the Obverse and Reverse.

I'm now thinking its definitely post-mint, so, now maybe someone else can figure out HOW it was worked on without loosing any weight- for all of our educational benefit.

I've caused enough problems with this coin!

Chuck.

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I don't see any images of the coin - only a coin on a scale.

I would have to see the coin itself to make any judgement.

If the details are soft, it could be a case of a coin beaten with a hammer through leather. It could be any number of different things.

I've looked over Chuck's 1980 cent, along with a similar-looking cent of the same date that is less seriously affected. Regrettably, they both appear to have been altered outside the Mint.

On the more severely affected coin, the evidence for fakery is as follows (some of this I've said before).

1. The pattern of ripples is unlike any other pattern of genuine Die Deterioration I've come across.
2. While the surface texture is grossly affected, the thickness of the letters has hardly changed. With Die Deterioration this severe, you'd expect gross expansion of the letters and a narrowing of the gap between the letters and the design rim.
2. The likelihood that both faces would show an identical pattern of distortion of equal severity is almost nil.
3. The surface color is unnatural-looking.
4. The clincher is that the odd texture appears on the edge at about 1:00. This will never be the case with geniune Die Deterioration, as the collar does not develop this kind of wear. And even if it did, its appearance would not likely coincide with anything going on with the obverse or reverse face.

The second cent presents similar problems, including the repetition of an odd texture on the edge.

I don't know what was done to them, but their appearance is incompatible with a genuine error.