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Posting here an image of the one I picked up today, actually my first of this type, which I realize is common & unremarkable, albeit somewhat pricier than they were not so many years ago (although they're still relatively cheap). My question is how comprehensively have the various signatures that appear on these been researched?  Colligo ergo sum
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I would not say common & unremarkable, because I do not see them every day. Thank you for sharing.  |
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Are you positive it is genuine? I know they make a lot of copies of those types of notes. I am not saying your is a copy,just wondering. John1  |
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I have some copies and they say COPY on them. Also, they feel like modern replicas, so even without copy one would know something is not quite right with them.  |
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Are you positive it is genuine? This was selected out of several my (highly trusted) shop had gotten in. All had differing serial numbers and signatures that were quite readily verifiable as having been done with "live" ink that has since properly faded to a brown hue. The one that they were putting up on their bid board had peculiar numbers with "tails" that the writer let flow far down into the note. But overall, I liked the condition of this specimen the best (several were in fairly rough shape). One characteristic of these in general is that the paper is perhaps just a smidgen better than foolscap - that in itself is rather hard to fake. Here're closeup shots of the two signatures on this specimen.   Colligo ergo sum
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02/23/2018 6:42 pm
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It appears genuine, and is not currently on the list of known bogus CSA notes.
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Nice clean note - congrats.
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Well, I found the answer to the question I had posed originally in this thread. There's a book by Sarah Pelot titled The Signers of Confederate Treasury Notes, 1861-65: A Catalog of Their Signatures with a Catalog of the Notes Signed that I imagine is a pretty thorough treatment of the subject. It was published a while back (2003) so I don't yet know how readily available it might be.
Colligo ergo sum
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02/27/2018 09:47 am
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Lucky I did a search for that book title. One sold on ebay for around $125 last month. It was self-published and is out of print. If you are a member of the American Numismatic Association or the Society of Paper Money Collectors both of these have a copy that can be checked out by members for a fee. -MV |
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Thank you for the update. |
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If you are a member of the American Numismatic Association or the Society of Paper Money Collectors both of these have a copy that can be checked out by members for a fee. My county library has been successful in laying their hands on some very obscure titles on my behalf, so I'll give that a try first. If I can get this book in hand, I'll be back with a brief review. As for the two signatures on this particular note, I take the second one to be "A. Caldwell", but the first I can decipher only so far as I think it's "E. Lee(something)" with possibly a break or space between those e's. Colligo ergo sum
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02/27/2018 11:13 am
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The one that they were putting up on their bid board had peculiar numbers with "tails" that the writer let flow far down into the note. Well, I ended up with this other one as well.  The signatures in this instance seem pretty easy to make out.   I have the first as "L. Courtney" and the second as "S. Simons" (with possibly an accent mark over the "n"). Colligo ergo sum
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This is what is mentioned on Wikipedia. "Confederate Treasury Notes were hand signed by various clerks, with exception of the 50 cent issues that had the printed signatures of Robert Tyler and Edward C. Elmore. The first six notes issued were hand signed by the Register and Treasurer themselves. While hand signatures were considered an anti-counterfeiting tool, the sheer number of bills being produced could not reasonably be signed individually by two men each. Women were often hired as clerks to sign "for Register" and "for Treasurer"; up to 200 clerks were eventually hired for each." While Wikipedia sources need to be taken with a grain of salt, it would appear that researching the signatures may be an interesting but daunting task.
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As an aside, The 11th ed. of Confederate States Paper Money shows a printing of 9,135,920 of the T-68 $10 note.
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In case anyone is searching for the book mentioned above, it is actually written by Michael McNeil. 'Sarah Pelot' is part of the title, it was misinterpreted as the author instead of the end of the title.
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