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dollardude Valued Member United States 92 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 4:58 pm I am going through a jar of "Wheaties" ....just looking for anything that jumps out at me, and I came across these 1956 cents with what appears to be matching clipped devices (the 6) I am not familiar with cent varieties so I thought I should ask... is this Common? Coincidental PMD? Something else? please let me know your thoughts... (please excuse my inverting one of the coins to fit the field of view...) Report this Post to the Staff

dollardude Valued Member United States 92 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 5:24 pm I may be able to answer my own question here... Looks very common as I just found another... for this error to occur it must not be PMD therefore it would have to be a HUB error otherwise there would need to be a very persistent piece of bubble gum stuck in the die! Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 6:20 pm It is PMD, NOT HUBBING! Yes I'm yelling, to get attention. Possibly a machine making a like area hit, but it is a contact hit from an object or moving machine part (gumball?) Report this Post to the Staff
Cujohn Pillar of the Community United States 7174 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 6:53 pm No it's not PMD. It's known as a broken 6. A lot of 56s are that way. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74346 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 6:57 pm Not Post Mint Damage! It was caused by a broken 6 from the working hub. Here's a thread of the same error. http://goccf.com/t/282577 Also, here's what Coop said about the issue. He gets in depth about it as well. Coop: Quote: "It was an issue from the broken '6' on a working hub that created several dies that look like. This is not not PSD. This is from a hub that was breaking down. Some varieties are on some of theses dies created as well a many more that were normal dies without a variety of them. The hub that creates the die, looks just like the coins created. Hubs have the positive design (Whether master or working hubs). Dies have the negative designs. (Whether Master dies or working dies)" Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Coppergold Pillar of the Community United States 939 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 7:05 pm Is there any sign of a cracked skull? Check the head to see if there's any die break/crack Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 7:06 pm It is from a broken hub. That device can be found broken on several different dies. Both Philly and Denver. This one is a RPM. So it happened on several dies. Some you can see more affected than others, so the hub was breaking away a bit at a time and this shows on the dies created. This has happened to other dies in the past on the 1936 dies on the 'R' on LIBERTY. And on 1983-D LIBERTY, but this time on the 'Y': So why is a hub chipping off different from a die chipping off? On a hub chipping off, that area on the die is not formed correctly. Instead of making the die larger like a die chip that shows on the coins struck, it makes the device smaller and shows a void on the coins. Also the hub chip will show on more different dies in the same location. Report this Post to the Staff
Coppergold Pillar of the Community United States 939 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 7:31 pm http://goccf.com/t/300779 I've got the same one. Except my coin has two very visible die breaks obverse and reverse Report this Post to the Staff
dollardude Valued Member United States 92 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 9:25 pm One of these has a horizontal break across the entire coin crossing at forehead height... the other has a vertical break along the right wheat leaves Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 9:32 pm The point is that several different dies were created with this hub. A die crack/chip/break or Cud just tells the dies age. So there were several dies created with the issue. Because of the high number coins from that hub, it also makes this not a premium for this error. Report this Post to the Staff
dollardude Valued Member United States 92 Posts	Posted 02/23/2018 9:41 pm I figured it would have no premium when I found 3 out of about 10 1956 coins.. thanks for all the info.. and confirmation of it being a hub caused error Report this Post to the Staff
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