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 Posted 02/26/2018  11:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Coinnewbie3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I purchased this denarius from a seller recently at a collectors thrift shop near me. After examining it I am not sure if this is genuine. 3.21 grams. What do you mates think? Any telltale signs I should be worried? Cheers

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 Posted 02/27/2018  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks OK to me.
Silver purity should be over 90%.
Flan most probably struck hot, to extend die life.

Does the price paid make you suspicious?
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 Posted 02/27/2018  01:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also thinks it's OK, not a lot of detail remaining to say 100% though.
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 Posted 02/27/2018  08:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add antwerpen2306 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also think it's ok . The coin was struck by a moving mint , probably in Patrae (Greece) . Also the silver purity is less than normally , these denarii were stuck to pay the legions .The quality of the silver was one of the reasons these denarii circulated even after the reform of Nero . albert
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Looks fine to me.

Antony had to pay tens of thousands of soldiers for months to win their loyalty; he debased these to (I think) 70-75% fine when 90-98% was the norm. I suspect that in order to gain the support from the remnants of Antony's army after their defeat, he probably permitted them to circulate at par with the rest of the denarii, where people played "hot potato" until the late 2nd century, preferring to spend these and hoard the 80-90% fine Imperial denarii.

In worn condition they are only worth $15-30; the price ramps up exponentially as you reach full legends, then light wear, then lustrous metal.
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I think it fine too. I have worn example as well. Take a look.


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 Posted 02/27/2018  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinnewbie3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, Well how bout this one? Does this look like it could be real or cast? I am wondering about the obverse and reverse wear not matching.Cheers!

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The coin is perfectly fine and quite real. No worries. Here is one I sold for abut $150 to Sweden very similar from on old estate. These trade like bullion there were so many so what is visible is very important and people pay for different roman numerals for different legions. So sometimes a worn one with an important number visible can fetch more than expected and this one was XIX.

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...people pay for different roman numerals for different legions.
Very good point. There are a lot of people out there that collect by the Legion.

My coin has some appeal and is not completely worn, but the legion number is not there so I didn't pay a lot for it.

I just wanted a Mark Antony Legionary denarius in my collection.
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 Posted 03/01/2018  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Squire Wilson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...I also wanted a Mark Anthony Denarius in my collection.

My Denarius is also very worn, but I like the blue metallic sheen on the coin. Like a little "silver opal" in my collection.

Squire

PS. I wonder where Mark Anthony obtained the silver for these Denarius pieces. Maybe from Cleopatra's Treasury?

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