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New South Wales Dump Advice Please

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 Posted 06/06/2008  11:59 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mjones32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi I'm new to the forum so gday everyone.

Basically I've been fortunate enough to discover that I have a New South Wales Dump coin, found in an old coin collection and I'm wondering how to go about getting it properly graded and valued. not really looking to sell at this point.

The front of the coin is worn but pretty readable , you can read New South Wales and you can still see the little cross on top of the crown. The reverse is pretty smooth - some of the letters can just barely be made out.

Any advice on how to approach it would be most appreciated. I checked ebay, nothing that I can find for similar coins.
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 Posted 06/06/2008  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the forums! I've read somewhere that fewer than 300 Holey Dollars are known to exist. If true, that means the same for the 15d punched from the center? Wow!

There are a couple of these coins at Heritage Auctions. So you don't have to sign in, here are some larger pics of one coin:

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 Posted 06/06/2008  6:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wouldn't have a clue, but if it's real, your sitting on a lot of $
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 Posted 06/06/2008  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a correction I found here on the surviving numbers of "Dumps":

"Today fewer than 300 genuine holey dollars are known and maybe 1500 dumps exist."

Btw, how about posting a few pics of your coin?
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 Posted 06/06/2008  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, if it's the real deal, then it's worth a lot of money.
There was a thread about Dumps in July 2007, which records several prices recently paid.
I'm sure I started a thread last November about a couple of auctions in England, involving, separately, a Holey Dollar and a Dump.
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 Posted 06/06/2008  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gnome to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You certainly have picked up a rarity coin there.
I'm with Kurt, any chance of some pics.
I wouldn't waste my time on ebay for prices.
I can give you some rough pricing for it, depending on what type of dump it is and of course the grading of it. The prices are from Mcdonalds current book.
Type A/1 [most common] VG 5000
Fine 20,000
VF 60,000
EF 185,000
Type D/2 [2nd most common] VG 5750
Fine 22,000
VF 67,000
EF 200,000
These are rough pricing.
Footnote, Types C/4 and E/3 are double the prices of the A/1.
I'm sorry I am not familiar with the different types as listed.
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 Posted 06/06/2008  8:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mjones32 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
New-South-Wales-Dump-Advice-Please

Here's a pic of the coin, pretty grainy but you get the point. The reverse is practically smooth.

I don't think it's the C4 variant, based on the little lozenge shapes around the crown.

What kind of grade would this likely be do you thnk ? BTW - I'm sure its genuine, been in my family for at least 60 or 70 years.
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 Posted 06/06/2008  10:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
no better than V.Good
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Since it's such a rare non-standard coin, my guess is you'll need a specialist for an accurate appraisal.
It's great to even see a photo like that!
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 Posted 06/06/2008  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Learjet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to be better than the ones Eric has on his site. http://www.drakesterling.com/produc...x?category=3

It might only be VG but it's going to be worth several thousand at least.
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 Posted 06/06/2008  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add justabeginner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Holy moly... Nice find..
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 Posted 06/06/2008  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ElleKitty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
*Turns Green with envy.* An historical centerpiece to any collection! Regardless of condition that is one fine coin.
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G'day, I'm with Elle on this.
It is a centrepiece, be it ever so humble.
And I'll bet if you hang onto it for 10 years, it'll appreciate a lot more than anything minted in the 21st century.
THE book on Holey Dollars is by Mira & Noble, 1989.
I don't know if that covers dumps as well.
If I were you, I'd be focussing my reading on that subject.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  03:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spedward to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes even if it was in poor condition I'd trade my whole penny collection for one!
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 Posted 06/07/2008  06:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mjones32, A very nice find in any condition due to it's rarity. It's a great story to have had a coin like that in the family for so many years & be unaware of the value.

A great coin to build a collection around.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  07:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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mjones32 said:
...I'm wondering how to go about getting it properly graded and valued...

You're in America, so getting it slabbed wouldn't be too much trouble. PCGS and NGC should both be adequate. Hopefully the slabbing companies have on staff (or can borrow) someone knowledgeable enough to properly grade and authenticate a NSW Dump. According to the PCGS population report, they've graded one Holey Dollar, but no Dumps.

Of course, most Australian collectors would probably prefer that one of their iconic coins wasn't entombed in plastic.
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