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Gold Coin Help Identify

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 Posted 06/07/2008  6:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add karnhall to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi there, I have a gold coin of about 11mm diameter inserted in to an ivory box can anyone identify and is it worth trying to remove.

Thanks Kg

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 Posted 06/07/2008  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For a second I thought it was a $1 gold piece, but the diameter of that coin is 13mm. It looks like it may be a territorial gold piece. Do you have a picture of the reverse?
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 Posted 06/07/2008  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add karnhall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry, no it is inset into the lid of a small ivory box. I want to know if it is worth trying to remove it
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 Posted 06/07/2008  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Considering the condition, the coin would only be worth the scrap price of gold.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add karnhall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any idea what it might be date etc. for interest only. thanks
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 Posted 06/07/2008  6:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If its a territorial gold piece, it was probably minted sometime in the mid 1800's. I am not an expert on territorial gold pieces, but these were minted around the time of the SanFrancisco gold rush of 1849.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerc20 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me, it suspiciously looks like one of those souvenir fantasy gold territorial coins. Perhaps if we saw the reverse it would be easier to tell.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is genuine, looks to be the head of an 1854 fractional gold coin. Does the reverse have a denomination such as quarter dollar, half dollar, or dollar? I have a similar genuine piece that is dated 1854. Also, looks harshly cleaned.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add karnhall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
as I have said it is inset into a small box so do not know what is on the other side and only want to remove it if it is worthwhile. However the other side may be in good condition. What would you suggest?
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 Posted 06/07/2008  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffreyice1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with vermontensium, I think it is in this series.

Not 1854 though.

The Liberty Head Gold Dollar (also known as the Type One Gold Dollar) was minted from 1849 to 1854

http://www.usrarecoininvestments.co...lar_gold.htm
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 Posted 06/07/2008  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spider5689 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem I have calling this a Liberty Head Gold Dollar is the size. The coin was measured at 11mm. The Type One Gold Dollar is 13mm. Based upon those measurements, I am leaning heavily toward a territorial gold piece. This coin is definitely not a Type one Gold dollar. If you look at the head on the obverse, It is much larger than that on a type one dollar.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffreyice1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was just giving an example, There are a bunch of different fractional peaces. My bet is its a 50 C Gold coin. But thats a guess, it has the star's that match up with the larger face.

But the year range is right Id go as high as 1860!
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 Posted 06/07/2008  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BobK to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any clues as to country of origin? Seems we're all assuming it's from the US, and the design does look American, but the OP is from the UK after all.
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 Posted 06/07/2008  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jeffreyice1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The hair styles are to close on this to be, unless the US made one for the UK. There is a book on fractionals if you want to be sure before killing the Box. It also has what jewelers used up to 1882, It might fall into this catagory. The link below is a bit high I have seen it for 16 to 20 Dollars.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Book-California...ld_W0QQitemZ270242664939QQihZ017QQcategoryZ39473QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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 Posted 06/16/2008  12:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obviously not a one dollar gold too small and the head is too large. Possibly a California fractional or fantasy. If the box is really ivory and not plastic I would not try and remove it. Since the ivory trade has been banned, older ivory pieces are becoming more valuable.
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