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What Causes The Rainbow Color On Silver Coins?

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I have noticed that I am becoming attracted to the coloring on silver coins. I would love to learn more about how it happens. the more info the better...lol
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The environment is your simple answer. Different elements in the environment alloy with the surface metal of the coin, causing different colors. For example, silver chloride is a white color, silver oxide is a brown / black, and silver chromate is a rusty red-orange.
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RoyCoinBoy....love the metal, medal, metal medal quote...lol
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The term for what you are asking about is called toning. RoyCoinBoy is correct, it's caused by environmental interactions with the silver. Here is an informative article about it...

http://www.coinnews.net/2007/09/03/...-value-3565/
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Until you become familiar with toning, be aware that there are many folks "producing" toning to sell specifically to uneducated buyers.

Check out coins found in NGC, PCGS, and ANACS to get an idea of what is and isn't natural toning.
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The term for what you are asking about is called toning. RoyCoinBoy is correct, it's caused by environmental interactions with the silver. Here is an informative article about it...

http://www.coinnews.net/2007/09/03/.-value-3565/


Great article! Thank you very much...
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Never seen an environmentally damaged (toned) coin that wouldn't benefit from a quick dip!



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OR it could be left overs from Lyprocons, not sure of the spelling, looking for their pot of gold.
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Now would you like to know what causes the colors?

It's called thin-film interference. Light passing through the oxidation film on the surface of the coin reflects from both the top surface of the oxidation and from the back surface of the oxidation. These two reflections interfere with each other resulting in a cancellation of some of the frequencies in the light. Which frequencies are canceled is a function determined by the thickness of the oxidation film the light passes through. Different thicknesses mean different frequencies and your eye sees this as different colors.
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.Never seen an environmentally damaged (toned) coin that wouldn't benefit from a quick dip!


Same here lol. Kind of kidding, kind of not.
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As for "what causes it", chemically, the answer is "corrosion from atmospheric sulfur". Silver does not oxidize under normal atmospheric conditions, but pretty much any airborne form of sulfur - be it sulfur dioxide, hydrogen sulfide or organosulfur compounds as well as liquid or dissolved sulfur such as fingerprint oil, onion juice or machine oil - will chemically react with the silver metal of the coin to form silver sulfide.

Bulk silver sulfide is black. The colours that we call "toning" derive, as Conder states, from thin-film interference. Basically, when the layer of silver sulfide on the coin is very thin, light can shine through it. The thinnest films are reddish in colour, then greenish, then blue. After blue comes black, because the layer becomes too thick to be transparent.

This does mean that, if you have a coin with colours that are pleasing to you, protect it from further reaction with sulfur in the air - otherwise, the colours will change, and eventually turn black.
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I'm loving the debate here. I only posting so that I can retrieve it easily for future reference in my post history.

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Eight posts before the words thin film interference get posted. oh well.
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Can't help that, there were already seven posted before I got here.
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