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1857 Flying Eagle Cent, Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 03/31/2018  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Heymikep to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
BuffaloBonsai4, I am not in the same boat as most people here. I think that if YOU feel like you are getting a good deal then that is all that matters. I would not rely 100% on what everyone here is stating, everyone has there own way to purchase and collect coins. Some have good opinions but not everyone see's things the same.
You state that the seller has a 30 day return policy and is a reputable seller, what have you got to lose? If it is a fake then you can return it and you might be out the $2 or $3 for shipping the coin back, if it is real and you get it for a good price then you made out.
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 Posted 03/31/2018  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bandsdean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks whizzed. Pass. Respectfully.
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oriole's Avatar
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I would buy a coin raw with a guarantee but only IF I had an established relationship with the dealer.
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 Posted 04/02/2018  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm no expert but I see enough to be very suspicious. The date and legends generally look too rounded/"blobby", the E's and T's look wrong, the subtle striations in the fields (roughly N to S) make me think it's a laser-etched die. For a $3000-25000 coin I would demand sharp images and a guarantee of authenticity beyond a 30 day return policy.
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fenton's Avatar
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 Posted 04/02/2018  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks suspicious - the coin is too clean and the surfaces seem to lack any luster. Likely an AU example with altered surfaces, possibly whizzed or acid dipped. Cleaning can drop a coin to melt value, which is virtually zero in the case of old copper, so be very wary of buying any high grade coin that isn't certified by PCGS, NGC, or ANACS.
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 Posted 04/03/2018  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ZenFE99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a type 1856 from the font. Haven't seen those copied yet.
(Side note, I just received my first counterfeit 1857 FE in the mail yesterday - on purpose to add to my collection. It has the missing detail from the lower right leaf on the reverse)
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 Posted 04/03/2018  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverDollar2017 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't buy it. It's either a fake or cleaned.
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I say never spend more than $200 on a raw coin. On average 1857 Flying Eagles aren't rare or expensive, but that one looks to be mint state. Perhaps MS-65, which would make it between a $3k and $4k coin. If something seems too good to be true, follow those instincts. It's better to miss out on a coin that you're uncertain about than it is to lose money on a potential forgery that could've been spent on something you knew was real.
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04/18/2018 06:19 am
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I'm not an expert and the pictures aren't good enough for me. Having said that, the first thing I noticed about the coin is the weak breast feathers. That looks to me like wear or a weak strike. That's enough for me to pass without bothering to check for authenticity.
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