Help To Identify It. A Coin, A Token, A Medal?

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pirgah Valued Member Brazil 115 Posts	Posted 03/31/2018 3:32 pm It´s very difficult to me to post anything about this, as I never saw something similar. I think is "something" from Asia or Middle East (maybe India too) * Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. * Report this Post to the Staff

Joseph7420 Bedrock of the Community Canada 11922 Posts	Posted 03/31/2018 10:51 pm Hm... interesting piece you have there. Would you be able to provide a diameter for your coin? My first thought was a damma from the Habbari Dynasty, but while the first side of this coin looks similar, the second side... not as much. I cannot seem to find a similar matching reverse with other dammas. These coins are quite small though, so if yours is around 10 millimetres in diameter, it may be worth looking into those coins. The Ghaznavid Dynasty also made similar looking coins (like this one), and while they are larger, they still do not look right to me. Report this Post to the Staff
Kushanshah Pillar of the Community United States 1554 Posts	Posted 03/31/2018 10:56 pm Is it gold, silver or brass? It seems to be the central portion (only) of a gold dinar of the Great Seljuq sultan Muhamad I, 1099-1118, citing the 'Abbasid caliph al-Mustazhir, The visible legends read as follows: la ilah illa (there is no god but) Allah wahdahu (Allah alone) la sherikh lahu (There are no others with Him) al-Mustazhir Billah _____ Muhammad rassul Allah (Muhammad is the apostle of Allah) al-sultan al-mu'azzam (the great sultan) Nasir al-Islam (Victor of Islam) Ghiyath al-Dunya wa al-Din (Helper of the Faith and of the World) Abu Shuja' Muhammad Date and mint would have been in the outer margin which is missing. Edited by Kushanshah 04/01/2018 4:31 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Petrus Pillar of the Community Belgium 2895 Posts	Posted 04/01/2018 09:52 am For some coins, the die of bigger gold or silver coins was used to strike smaller flans The first picture has the first of the six Kalima's and is used on a lot of arabic coins. Second picture could be the second Kalima http://www.quranfocus.com/knowledge/kalimas Edited by Petrus 04/01/2018 10:43 am Report this Post to the Staff
pirgah Valued Member Brazil 115 Posts	Posted 04/01/2018 11:28 am Diameter: 1.5cm Weight: 1.3g Metal Type: Gold Report this Post to the Staff
pirgah Valued Member Brazil 115 Posts	Posted 04/01/2018 1:12 pm If it´s a coin why it´s so small? I searched for several islamic dinars but none of them has its weigh or diameter. Report this Post to the Staff
Kushanshah Pillar of the Community United States 1554 Posts	Posted 04/01/2018 4:08 pm Iran, Great Seljuqs, (Ghiyath al-Din Abu Shuja') Muhammad I, 1099-1118, AV dinar, citing also the 'Abbasid caliph al-Mustazhir, mint & date missing, Album 1683. "There was no fixed weight standard for the gold coinage. Seljuq dinars vary randomly from barely one to more than six grams and were thus intended to be weighed rather than counted." (Album, p. 182) It may also have been cut down when it was made into jewelry. Edited by Kushanshah 04/01/2018 5:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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