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Edited by FrankenCoin
04/07/2018 5:42 pm
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@FC, pics that are more in focus would be super-helpful. Has this cent been reprocessed?
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
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Hi Spence: Quote:
@FC, pics that are more in focus would be super-helpful. Has this cent been reprocessed? Sorry do not understand terminology or meaning of "Reprocessed". The lighting in the pic is not the best on the obverse but it is a BU-MS with handling abrasions only on the high spots of the figure and none on the reverse like it was in a lose roll or tube. The reverse crescent puch-crease through the rim has no displacement away for the cut area as if the damage was caused "after" stricking -- but inside as a void. Therefor I can only conclude that it must have been a pre-punch adjustment of the Planchet. Never seen anything like it before. Edited by FrankenCoin
04/07/2018 5:54 pm
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Your coin has been replated. It is NOT original mint issue. The line is incused(inwards), it is damage caused post mint. Normally we'd call it a vise job, two coin, offset squeezed or hammered to force the rim of one coin into the other.   Edited by Crazyb0
04/07/2018 6:13 pm
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Ok yes FrankenCoin, I definitely see the curved mark that you are pondering. It could be a minting error or just PMD. I would need better pics to make a determination, but perhaps someone else can tell based on what you already have posted. With regard to the reprocessing of the '43 cents, there is a lot of really good information on CCF. I'd recommend that you start by reading this prior thread: http://goccf.com/t/291228If your cent has been reprocessed, then I am doubtful that a mint error would much matter as the coin has relatively little numismatic value anymore. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Thanks Spence: Quote:Ok yes FrankenCoin, I definitely see the curved mark that you are pondering. It could be a minting error or just PMD. I would need better pics to make a determination, but perhaps someone else can tell based on what you already have posted. With regard to the reprocessing of the '43 cents, there is a lot of really good information on CCF. I'd recommend that you start by reading this prior thread: For the most part there is no underlining rust to the naked eye and it is not liquid silver in appearance, but that clearly of Zinc and weights exactly 2.7g. Additional pictures below: However I cannot classify it as a Brockage Strike error and it appears to be pre-die planchet error more so than anything and not a vise and hammer job. Again it does not have "Raised Edges on The Crescent Grove that matches Planchet Radius -- it is The Same Curve and is well seen or displayed", below. Note these picture are enlarged and the coin is in for research and grading and I will let every one know of this outcome. Sorry about the quality of these pictures.   BTW here is a Brockage Strike or "Strike Trough Mirror Brockage" classic example straight from a Mint OBW roll and not a hammer/vise job. http://goccf.com/t/315850Edited by FrankenCoin
04/07/2018 10:02 pm
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If it is indented, it is NOT A MINT ERROR!
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clearly of Zinc Right, that is my concern. Based on these pics, it looks to me like there is some minor wear, especially on the high points of Abe's cheek and jaw. Normally, I'd expect a little steel poking through in those spots. It isn't my particular area of knowledge, but it looks to me like your coin has been stripped and then re-plated. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Thanks again Spence: If that is the case so be it: I was working on the error issue to help others less knowledgeable too. I believe in the future it is best to allow people less knowledgeable to be guided to research more like "Brockage Strikes" etc. then to prevent them from knowing the term by some using the old vise and hammer on everything. http://goccf.com/t/315850Again it is in for Research and Grading and I will let you know of the outcome. However it was quite helpful to know about reprocessing of these coins too. You learn something new every day. |
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Here is a side note about the pr-processed cents and the original steel cents:  If they look shiny, they are altered.  The graded example in the above image. Edited by coop
04/07/2018 9:13 pm
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You learn something new every day. I agree! It is really great to have this forum for learning. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Thank you Coop and Spence: Quote:
Here is a side note about the pr-processed cents and the original steel cents: Yes this forum is a blessing in many ways thanks to the speed of the Internet. Research is key to understanding. Strike Through "Mirror Brockage" http://goccf.com/t/315850It is a learning experience for many -- why mislead them. |
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