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This one is way outside my collecting interest and knowledge. I welcome all comments and help, sooooo . . . help!It is a generic 1934 Lincoln Cent from the coins I pulled out of circulation back in the 1960s. The NE quadrant of the reverse has what appears to be a small lamination, from the rim to the upper right part of the right wheat stalk. It also has a large blob of metal between the right wheat stalk and the rim. My immediate reaction would be Cud but there is a deep indentation in this blob roughly matching the normal surface depth that should exist in this area, and the blob appears to be extra metal. I can't snag a good photo of the edge, but there does not appear to be any deformity or damage to the edge. Whatever this may be, it is above the surface of the coin. The lettering on "Liberty" opposite this area appears more or less normal. I give. Thoughts? Here are three shots of the whatever on the reverse:    Here are the date and "Liberty."   |
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I would guess that is the lamination all the way down that rim just some is retained
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That would be my guess as well. If it were a Cud, you would see weakness in the corresponding obverse area/rim. My only other thought is a Retained Cud, but it just doesn't look right. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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I agree looks more like a lam than a Cud. Nice job saving this when you found it! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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That's one heck of a Lamination you got there! Very nice find! It's huge! Make sure you get this in a 2x2 coin flip as soon as possible. It looks like some of it peeled off from circulation and some of it stayed retained to the surfaces.  Errers and Varietys.
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With no expertise what so ever I am gonna take a stab in the dark... at Cud over a lam error... if metal was retained from the lam wouldn't there be less of it then there appears to be? Also the bottom of the Cud seems rounded more like a Cud,,, I figure a torn lam would have a more torn or jagged appearance.  |
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I wish I could claim credit for having the foresight to save this back in the day, but I didn't even know it existed until this week.
I saved everything minted before 1940 when I was a kid, and have probably north of 30,000 pre-1940 Lincolns. (To give an example from the dates I've completed searching, I have 1,371 of the 1916-D Lincolns and 221 of the 1911-D Lincolns.) Now you know where my paper route and lawn mowing money went. I'm just now going through them for die varieties and errors. The vast majority of the coins I have are Denver (as you would expect from where I live). I also have a lot of San Francisco cents. Philadelphia coins didn't show up all that often in the Front Range back then.
This coin was simply another 1934 cent in a box. I don't remember noticing any errors back in the day.
Thanks all for the feedback. I appreciate the insight.
So it's a keeper?
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So it's a keeper? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Yes it's definitely a keeper in my book
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 Here we go. It is a Cud |
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 Here's one for P |
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Nice images of the area in question. Any way we can see whole obverse, reverse and the edge area that includes the affected area of wheat stalk to the M in UNUM. Thanks, Doug.
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04/11/2018 11:39 am
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It is a lamination error, and a nice one at that. I found the only known Retained Cud on a 1934-P coin about six months ago (RCD-1C-1934-05R) so if you score one on a 34-P it's a rare one (while typing this I see Coppergold has posted a screen caption of that coin). However there are several very nice ones on 1934-D including one on an off center coin that is just killer cool. Edited by tropicalbats
04/11/2018 11:38 am
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Actually it is a struck through debris. Note on the lower 1/2 of the right wheat ear. You can see where the Piece of debris ended. Some of the debris has peeled off. But when the debris was attached to the coin it was shaped just like the planchet. If it were a lamination, then it would be more in an exact straight direction. The weight should be a bit heavier than a normal coin?
It looks like you could see it over the edge of the coin?
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So in other words, it's a struck through lamination Cud lol |
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