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New Member
Romania
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Greetings all! I bought this the other day in an online auction, I don't yet have a diameter or weight for it. I have already looked for it on coinarchives pro and Ha.com but have not managed to find anything similar enough. Any thoughts on what it might be?  *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. ***
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Ill definitely watch to see if someone does know, but it looks like an emergency issue of some type.
I would have bought that one myself.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4883 Posts |
Colligo ergo sum
Edited by Lucky Cuss 04/23/2018 11:23 am
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Valued Member
United States
309 Posts |
This may be interesting. It looks like a coin weight. By listing COL (Colonial?), M (Massachusets?), and NE (New England?) it points to early American shillings. What does it weigh and how does that weight compare to published weights for the NE shilling and early large planchet Massachusetts shillings? If the weight matches then the next step is to identify who made coin weights like this? Coin weights were made to account for circulating coins and the date of 1665 may indicate this does not apply to small planchet Mass silver, made through the 1680s. But this is deep knowledge of coins not well know back in the day. If we allow that Massachusetts shillings could turn up in change for two hundred years post-1652, then this could be a 19th century object.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I did find a mention in a publication, Numisma about a 1665 XII Pence https://books.google.com/books?id=-...coin&f=falseWhich led me to check the Newman Numismatic Portal and The Colonial Newsletter No. 49 https://www.archive.org/stream/CNLn.../search/1665The relevant portion of the above being Quote: The so-called 1665 XII Pence described by Taxay in Counterfeit, Mis-Struck and Unofficial U.S. Coins, pp. 145-147 and illustrated on page 146, has an inverted "M" on the obverse. It is a 19th century fabrication Unfortunately, I do not own a copy of the Taxay book mentioned above so I cannot check to see if it is a matches up. -MV
Edited by MeadowviewCollector 04/23/2018 6:08 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I found a reference to this in the American Journal of Numismatics, published in 1881.
Quote from the book:
"A curious piece, XII Pence, 1665, rev. Col + M + NE. star or sun in centre, size and weight of a shilling, brought 11; this piece we consider to be of doubtful character, and probably of the same class as the "Novum Belgium," which was rediscovered recently, though probably not issued from the Betts mint."
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New Member
 Romania
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Thank you all very much for your help!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
12057 Posts |
There appears to be an undertype of some sort visible.
Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis
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