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Hi guys, first post so please excuse any silly questions that ensue! I purchased this coin(?) on ebay, for just a couple of pounds so thought I'd get it for the fun of it. Upon receiving it, I've been trying to look into it's origins and came across this excellent forum. I've read the post regarding fake ancient coins and now believe this to be one of them, was just looking for some confirmation. Keen to become an active member on here, seems a great community. Thanks in advance.    |
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Weight ? Looks good to me. But I only know a bit about this type. Also  We look forward to your participation. |
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to the community Looks OK to me. |
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Issues from Euboia, Histiaia (which I assume this is) are very widely faked, and so your concern is understandable. Having said that, I don't see anything shouting fake here.
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Thanks for the replies guys. I'll get the weight checked when I get home. Any idea when it could be from?
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I was able to find this good resource. All of the coins on the image are known fakes; there was a huge output of fakes a number of years ago (late 90s) using a number of dies, most with the "crazy hair" like yours http://bpmurphy.ancients.info/image...taiacomp.jpgIt looks fine, but the fakes are usually made in good silver and convincingly made... it's a scary situation. |
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Thanks Finn, very frustrating indeed having to ensure it's not fake (welcome to the world of coins!) I've noticed they really don't sell for much on ebay, I'm assuming that's because they are so widely faked? |
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Commonly faked, and the genuine pieces are also extremely common and usually have problems (off-centered, etc). I have personally seen a disturbing number of fakes seeded into lots of bronze Roman coins to drive bids - I even entered (and thankfully lost!) a number of bidding wars on such coins, before I knew better. You can try at FORVM Ancient Coins; they have an image database of known fakes, as well as a constantly-updated list of sellers who knowingly peddle fakes as genuine: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/bo...00#msg123200http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/ |
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Great database, thanks Finn, will help with future buys!
Will weight give this away in that case, can't find the seller or a fake that looks exactly like it on the register in the links you provided.
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04/23/2018 10:51 am
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The point of the Murphy photo is that he believes all coins of this variety characterized by "flowing hair, pointing upwards" and "large pellets making up the flowers" are fake. "This hairstyle", he explains, "is not found on genuine examples". Is he right? There are many on ebay; very few in major auctions. Here is a link to Mr. Murphy's original 2006 thread (on another forum): http://www.ancients.info/forums/sho...ad.php?t=877Edited by Kushanshah
04/23/2018 7:32 pm
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Welcome, Bilko89Quote:
All of the coins on the image are known fakes; there was a huge output of fakes a number of years ago (late 90s) using a number of dies, most with the "crazy hair" like yours. Finn235, that is really scary. Why such a frenzy to forge a common ancient? If you want to authenticate this specimen, find a "we buy precious metals" or jewelry shop that has an XRF device. If genuine, it should show a trace of gold in the analysis, and absolutely no modern metals ought to be present. Colligo ergo sum
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04/23/2018 7:39 pm
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People are naturally and rightly cautious of fakes of the "rockstar" ancients - Athenian owls, Alexander the Great, Corinth, Syracuse, etc... these are pretty, collectible, and not something people used to bother to question. Manufacture a couple dozen dies, purchase $100 worth of fine silver, fabricate a story of a "hoard find" and you have turned a thousand bucks into ten thousand.
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Thanks for the warm welcome folks. Unfortunately the scales I thought I had at home are now non existent. It's maybe something I'll get checked on at a later date, for a few pounds I'm not too upset if it is a fake but would be nice to know for sure. I noticed that when I had a look myself before posting Kushanshah, which is why I thought it was fake in my OP. Very frustrating!
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Posted 04/23/2018 08:50 am
