1919 Buffalo Nickel, What Do You Think?

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KenBerthiaume Pillar of the Community United States 512 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 11:55 am What grade wouldst thou givest? This one is tricky. Report this Post to the Staff

Optimist-numismatist Pillar of the Community Canada 683 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 11:57 am MS-63 with a weak strike IMO. Report this Post to the Staff
TNG Bedrock of the Community United States 10284 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 12:06 pm I'll go MS64 but late deteriorating die state. They made a lot of these. Report this Post to the Staff
nfine Pillar of the Community United States 3477 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 12:10 pm How much does tail detail figure into grading Buffalo nickels? Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11904 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 12:10 pm looks mid to high AU or AU55-58 sharpness. However the coin appears to have some damage. The jaw area behind the mouth, hair knot and hair above the knot appear to have parallel marks, the kind you see from the plastic sliders in dansco type albums. But it's weird because you would expect that type of damage to show up on the high point in the cheek, but this is in a more recessed area. The parallel marks look a little deeper than what you would expect from a rag wipe. Looks like the area was scraped on an abrasive surface. The area in question looks dark suggesting past surface contact. Buffalo in reverse shows more than a few hits. Don't know if PCGS straight graded it, but I would avoid this coin as nicer AU examples of the 1919 aren't that hard to find. Report this Post to the Staff
SilverDollar2017 Pillar of the Community United States 8715 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 12:11 pm AU-58 Report this Post to the Staff
T-BOP Rest in Peace United States 18456 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 12:17 pm Very late deteriorating die state . MS-64 . Report this Post to the Staff
Slider23 Pillar of the Community United States 4471 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 12:38 pm AU55 - It may of graded MS, but not a coin I would want in my collection. Edited by Slider23 04/27/2018 12:52 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Crazyb0 Rest in Peace 10197 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 1:29 pm have to agree 100% with Slider and others, weakly struck but will grade higher than eye appeal which I'm guessing on Mox's scale would be 6/10. Not fond of the alloy problem of copper streaks, poorly mixed alloy, weakly struck and some surface "effects"(?), AU55 IMHO, but guessing it got a clear grade of MS63+. What do I win if I guessed right? Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 1:32 pm I think you're right - 63 sounds plausible. Report this Post to the Staff
KenBerthiaume Pillar of the Community United States 512 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 3:22 pm OP here. I guess I don't get grading per se. How can this coin get an MS grade? It's all scraped. Look how mashed the pelt is on the buffalo's head. How faded the fist "1" is 1919. Not enough time has gone by for me to reveal the actual grade. But it's higher than I thought. Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11904 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 3:51 pm seems like a good reason to not trust slabbed grades blindly. TPG graders are human. Report this Post to the Staff
acloco Pillar of the Community United States 3540 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 5:48 pm numismatic student - THIS particular BUFF, is one of the reasons this series is HARD to consistently grade. The streaks are planchet flaw - material did not flow together correctly. Soft Obverse and Reverse strike caused by worn dies. MS63 at least. Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11904 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 5:50 pm not referring to color striations. referring to the scuffs on the surface. that is not a planchet flaw. it is PMD. Report this Post to the Staff
Optimist-numismatist Pillar of the Community Canada 683 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 6:02 pm It could be die burn Numismatic-student Report this Post to the Staff
numismatic student Bedrock of the Community United States 11904 Posts	Posted 04/27/2018 6:07 pm dies can be scratched. that would result in raised lines. the obverse shows incuse parallel scratches. not really familiar with die burn. what is that? Report this Post to the Staff
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