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United States
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Hi everyone, So I just began my journey with coins this last year and I recently picked up this 1804 Silver Dollar from a gal who got it in a box at an auction. I honestly cannot tell if it is real or fake and I am conflicted even reading up on the coin due to some of the attributes. There are definitely things that look fake to me such as the stars not being as neat as I think they are suppose to be,. however, this coin is not magnetic at all and the weight is heavy at 37.3 .It is 4.5cm all the way around..I honestly cannot find any examples anywhere of these qualities in this coin, so I am really hoping to get some input on here:)Thank you  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Do you understand how much an 1804 bust dollar is worth? Your observations are correct. This is a counterfeit worth $1.50 as a novelty and  to CCF!
Edited by MikeF 05/06/2018 11:54 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It's a horrible counterfeit.  to the CCF!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: So I just began my journey with coins this last year and I recently picked up this 1804 Silver Dollar from a gal who got it in a box at an auction. I hope this experience doesn't sour you on coin collecting. It "looks" silver. Otherwise, trust your gut and ignore those $$$ signs dancing around your head. A 7-figure coin doesn't have legends that look like they were drawn with a crayon.
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Valued Member
United States
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No doubt it is Fake. Does it stick to a magnet?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have an 1804 as well !  What a coincidence ! Mine is a dud too.  A real bargain; it cost me all of ONE DOLLAR to buy it. It is only way I will ever get to own one.  The RCM does 20 for 20's. I did a 1 for 1 from my LCS. Google Images: '1804 silver Dollar', to get an idea of genuine.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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 Anyway -  to the CCF!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The 1804 dollar is one of the most famous US coins. Eric P Newman wrote a book about the coin. The 1804 dollar has an amazing history. I hope you did not pay too much for your counterfiet.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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This is a perfect example of the "halo" toning used on modern counterfeits. Dark around the rim and bright n the center. Very eye catching, with the appearance of age.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Oh, this is such a sad looking "example".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Welcome.
It is a really BAD counterfeit. I hope you did not pay a lot for it
Tim Hughes
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I heard even the Chinese counterfeiters held their noses when they saw this.
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United States
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Welcome.
I don't believe I've ever heard of or seen a bogus 1804 that was 45 mm in diameter. I'd consider this to be less of a forgery than a "replica" intended as a novelty item.
Colligo ergo sum
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