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1969-S (Lmc) DDO-001 The Big One.

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I was looking for doubled dies on the 1955 big one and didn't find any. I know the 1969-S had one that Ken Potter had an image of. So I check PCGS and they have 22 on their site. Guess how many have Machine Doubling?

16. only 6 without Machine Doubling. Another interesting fact. Now If I could figure out the percentage. LOL
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So in other words, you can have a double die coin that also has MD on it? Interesting
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Correct. Most of the examples I spotted it was on the date/mint mark area or on LIBERTY or on both areas. It seem the better condition the coin was, the more the MD examples were found. Probably someone is sitting on them somewhere. They are smart. Sell off one at a time. That will help you retire if you have a bunch of them. Flood the market, and watch the value for them drop out of the market. That is usually what happens when someone finds a variety coin and find 100 of them. Dumps them all on ebay at once, and gets hardly nothing for them. The price drops fast.
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Hmmm really?
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So if you have 800 of a certain variety and sell one a week. It would take almost 20 years to sell them. Interesting.
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It has to be one with a recognized low pop or the value is most likely an arbitrary get what you can.
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I'm going back to check die state on them See how late the die state is on the worst one. Then that will give us an idea how soon they caught the doubling. It it see VLDS examples, then it made a full run of possibly a million. I'll check to see.

They are all VEDS coins, So they caught it before too many got out.
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That's interesting Coop. I already knew this, but it's still very interesting because of how often Machine Doubling happens. I have found plenty of genuine Doubled Dies with Machine Doubling on them.
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Quote:
16. only 6 without Machine Doubling. Another interesting fact. Now If I could figure out the percentage. LOL


Almost 73 % ( 16 ) had MD and just over 26 % ( 6 ) did not.
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Amazing. That's an eye-opener for sure.
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The graders don't consider MD as a minus. I just discovered something else that doesn't lower a grade on a graded coin:
1969-S-Lmc-DDO-001-The-Big-One.
Note the grade PF-70 perfect coin. What else do the graders not knock the grade down for?
1969-S-Lmc-DDO-001-The-Big-One.
Split plating on a perfect coin? I'd be upset if I bought this coin that should be perfect, when it would be to me.

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Coop , can you give us a side by side Illustration of a 69-S DD/O and a 69-S MD . I'm sure we would all like to see the difference you mentioned .
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That is interesting Coop. I'm in that category too; if the coin had splits I'd expect it to grade lower. MD on a coin...I would feel the same but maybe a click less so.
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The 1969-S DDO that I found had MD on the MM.
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If the grading is done with only a 5x magnification, would they be able to discern "minor" split plating as pictured on the above "perfect" coin? I'm with you though, it SHOULD be perfect.
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Coop, when I saw the thread title, I thought it was another newbie thinking they had the 1969-S DDO. Until I saw it was you who started the thread.
IMO, split plating could be a cause to lower the grade, but not MD. MD doesn't affect the coin as much as a split plating issue.
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