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Help... 2010 Lincoln Dollar Error Missing Edge Lettering

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I have a 2010 Lincoln Dollar missing edge lettering. I can't find any info on an error from this year. My dilemma is I'm not sure how to value for grading. Being that it seems there haven't been any others found... any help is greatly appreciated.

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It's surprising you weren't able to find anything about this error because it is known to exist, but more frequently in earlier years. Here's a page with some additional information: http://presidentialdollarguide.com/...-error-coins

One like yours sold on ebay about a month ago for $40: http://www.ebay.com/itm/112897679378

Good find!
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Great find, I have known about them but they are only on select coins from one specific year if I remember correctly? I know I do not have any in my collection
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to the CCF!
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to CCF. These are easily faked. Weight? The least expensive co is ANACS. I don't think it is worth sending in because as a general rule the retail value needs to be 150 or more.
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These are easily faked. Weight?


Just confirming here...is this because unscrupulous folks will just remove enough metal from the edge to obliterate the letters (thus reducing the weight of the coin)?
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I dont believe this is a fake, edge appears genuine and weight is consistent with other Lincoln dollars. Sent it out to NGC today, will post results. It may just be the only Lincoln error coin found with the missing edge lettering. Can't wait to find out!
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Spence,People will remove the edge lettering or just "smooth" them out without removing any metal.
Jgray1221,please let me (us) know the outcome.
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Here is a link from Mike Diamond's site:
http://www.error-ref.com/part_vii__...difications/
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The amount of metal removed to remove the lettering is not enough to put the coin out of tolerance, so weight will not tell you anything.

Cost to have slabbed will pretty much wipe out any additional value.
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Well with the devices incuse on the rim, I bet it would show up as a bit light on weight?
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Yes, but like I said it will still be within tolerance so unless you know what it actually weighed before the lettering was removed you would never know from just weighing it. Spec weight on the coin is 8.1 grams, but the tolerance is +/- .3 grams.

You MIGHT be able to tell by measuring the diameter with a micrometer, but there is a problem there as well. The coin has a spc diameter of 26.5 mm, but that would probably be the diameter of the coin pre lettering. Since the diameter would probably also vary depending on the pressure applied by the lettering dies the diameter also has a tolerance range which I DON'T know.

One thing which will normally identify removed lettering is a close examination of the edge. On a regular plain edge Sac dollar the three layers are visible but not clearly defined and there are fine lines that run across the edge from the shearing of the metal from the punching out of the blank AND "scratched" on the edge from the ejection of the coin from the collar. To remove the lettering the coin is often mounted on a lathe, spun up and then either a cutting tool or sandpaper is applied to the edge. This results in the layers being clearly defined, and there are scratches/tool marks running AROUND the edge rather than across it.
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Do you have any images of that? Those would be handy here is you do.
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Coop, I don't have my own images but they can be found here on pages 16 and 17. Check with them and they will probably allow you to make up your educational aids.

https://minterrornews.com/issue2007special.pdf

Also in that issue they give weights of genuine and altered pieces with the edge lettering removed and it does show that weight is NOT a good way to identify them and I mentioned.
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