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1988 Lincoln Memorial Cent With Double-Faced Die Dents

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I found this coin a while back and finally got a chance to image it. It is quite similar to another coin I have that Mike Diamond diagnosed for me and so I am pretty sure I've got the error correct here.

Essentially a bit of hard debris gets struck between the dies with no planchet in there, creating large die dents on both the obverse and reverse dies. In this case, two bits of debris.

All the marks are raised, on both sides, and match up perfectly. The one near the date/AM is very much pyrmidic with incised thin cracks running down the edges of the raised pyramid. Pretty neat looking error coin, and rare, but rather a minor error nonetheless.


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 Posted 05/19/2018  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That looks more like to me that the metal was squeezed on ones side, leaving an indented area and the other side pressing it outwards? PDS If that is the case. Pressed hard enough to make an indent, but not enough to split the plating.
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Nothing is indented. As stated everything is raised on both sides.
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I really like that pyramid-shaped region by the date--neat find!
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Very nice find! I respectfully disagree with Coop. This isn't Post Strike Damage. Clearly, something hard got stuck in the die and caused some die dents. The debris ended up damaging both of the dies.
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Certainly not PMD. Nice find!
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I would ask mike diamond or Fred Weinberg what that is
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Coppergold, don't worry. He already had Mike Diamond diagnose his coin. Definitely a very interesting piece. :-)
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This coin was correctly diagnosed at the beginning of this thread. Complementary die dents on both faces. A very nice find.
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Thanks Mike! I am still mostly a varieties guy but slowly getting the hang of the errors. Your time to take a look at this one is much appreciated.
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Much nicer than mine !
Mr Diamond called it a Bi-facial die dent and gave a link to one of his articles .
http://www.lincolncentforum.com/for...ghlight=dent
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This is the original coin where I learned about this kind of error. May as well get all these in one thread.


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Bats hard to tell, is that 83 a DDR?
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NewMember, no, it's not a DDR. It's an error coin with severe Die Dents that damaged the dies. You can see the die cracked on impact from striking something hard.
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So basically what is being said, it that a die chipped off small areas on the die during a strike, that leaves raised areas on the coins on one side where it chipped off, from the chipped off side, it stuck to the other die. So you see a slight incuse area where the metal transferred to the other die?
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Not quite. There is nothing at all incuse involved here. Something, let's say a BB, gets struck between two dies leaving both dies dented. All further coins come out with complimentary, raised, die dents on both sides.
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