PCGS- "Professional" Opinions Are Just That!

10% of PCGS slabs have problems? That is more than a bit of hyperbole?! Where on earth are you getting that percentage from? You do need to keep in mind that American grading is simply different than world grading. An American XF is an entirely different grade than a British EF. And on top of that, at the end of the day, a grade is an opinion. You could put 100 coins in front of any 2 experts in just about any series, and I can almost guarantee that there will be a difference of opinion in at least 10 of them.




I have been frustrated with PCGS's customer service myself in the past, but the idea that everything will be perfect all of the time is just outrageous.




Just because someone disagrees with your opinion, does not mean they are a 'shill' for a company.




I ship all over the world, and purchase from all over the world as well. The U.S.'s postal system is not what I would even remotely call 'crappy'

No where did he say he never makes mistakes, You're putting words in his mouth in an I'll attempt to refute him.

What I got from what he said was that he (1 person) has been able to buy numerous coins at discounts because of PCGSs' (multiple experts) mistakes.

I am not trying to say that the graders at PCGS are not experts, but when 1 person can notice a mistake made multiple times by experts, mistakes that no one at PCGS seemed to notice, then people are going to question PCGSs' expertise.
But I guess those people just have "an axe to grind" huh.

Fanboy

Various internet definition sites - main quote from Urban Dictionary.
"An extreme fan or follower of a particular medium or concept, whether it be sports, television, film directors, video games (the most common usage), etc.

Known for a complete lack of objectivity in relation to their preferred focus. Usually argue with circular logic that they refuse to acknowledge. Arguments or debates with such are usually futile. Every flaw is spun into semi-virtues and everything else, blown to comedic, complimentary proportions.

Known for using the phrase
"Object of affection = Best Ever"
However, while people only really say that as hyperbole, fanboys truly believe it...

Insult/chastise others for using public forums to express an objective opinion, no matter how constructive or, respectful it may be. (Go ahead and admit that it's a good game/movie/etc. This fact and anything else will be promptly ignored in favor of cherry picking the negative, and beating you over the head with it.

Tend to resort to petty annoyance replies when backed against the wall. Usually grammar attacks and non-replies."

They also say a fanboy will, "troll online to spread the gospel." So a fanboy can be a troll I guess.

Ignoring and/or failing to supply sources/requests for such, assigning motives to shift focus etc. are also common.

Yes, Optimist-numismatist and Earle42 are on the money in identifying the fanboys. Certain posters cannot refute the examples I've posted so they attack by putting words in my mouth.
I can prove that 10% figure if the PCGS fanboys and shills really want me to. Would they like a post every day labled PCGS screw-ups?
I'd be happy to oblige.
How about I list a few in my collection for starters.
30509523, a lovely error penny (double struck flipover), pity about the black contraption taking up half an image.
31576797, a scarce variety penny (pointed serif) that is wrongly in the population report as the standard variety.
18348028, a 1951PL (London) threepence wrongly identified as M (Melbourne)
80782617, a real doozy. An Aussie shilling that was originally slabbed as NZ, has a massive flaw on one side that should have precluded slabbing as a normal shilling (but a lovely error).
13507333 a Canberra florin graded MS63 prooflike (it even states prooflike on the slab). The previous owner sent it back to get the MS63 designation corrected to PL63 but PCGS wouldn't amend the designator.
27330407 and 18760816 both MS63 Large Denticle 1953 florins that PCGS has in their population report as Small Denticle.
84966152 a MS64 Large Denticle wrongly identified as Small Denticle.
And then I could list dozens of undergraded or overgraded examples. Yes, the grades are opinions but they are supposed to be expert opinions and it is supposed to be 2 experts agreeing. So how can 2 experts with their eyeballs on the coins agree on a grade and then agree on a different grade when the coin is resubmitted for an upgrade? This is so common that they even advertise their Reconsideration Service (which really means we messed up last time so you can pay us more money to fix those screw ups.
Maybe tomorrow I could start posting a few counterfeit coins in genuine PCGS slabs. I've only spotted about 20 this year.
Then there are a few hundred misidentified coins I could list, like a circulation strike in a proof slab or a proof in a circulation slab. Wrong countries, wrong mints, wrong denomination, shall we continue?

I think it's time to shut this thread down. It is going nowhere and the name calling is juvenile.