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Am I Seeing A Little Bit Of Reverse On This Obverse? 1983-P Kennedy 50c

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Still getting the hang of the terminology, but is this some sort of counterbrockage?

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 Posted 05/30/2018  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find! It was Struck Through Grease on the head and slightly on the date. Hang on to this one and put it into a 2x2 coin flip for protection. http://www.error-ref.com/struck-thr...-grease-oil/
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Struck Through Grease was my first thought as well. After looking at it for a bit I noticed it was close in shape to the head, torso, and tail of the eagle on the reverse, however. Am I letting my imagination get the best of me?
Here's a size comparison that looks pretty close to me:


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Might be grease issues. I would double check the weight. Thanks, Doug.
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I agree. A lot of grease, causing issues. (thus the coin on John's head)
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Thanks for all the input, I appreciate it!
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It is Struck Through Grease.

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What is that dent though? The shape of the torso of the eagle on the head of Kennedy? Is that some form of caving in, in direct die transfer?
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A glob of grease deep into the deepest recess of the die.

Tip of the day: If you can't remember that a die is not raised, remember consider this thought. We say something raises on a coin. But we all use the term in on a die. (denoting that the devices are deeper into the die)
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What is the weight of this coin? I suspect it is not a Grease Fill but possibly a thin planchet and the striking pressure wasn't enough to fill the high areas opposite each other leaving a depression in Kennedy's head from the torso of the eagle which filled first (shallower relief) Could also just be a lower pressure strike that didn't allow complete filling which would also explain the weak peripheral details.
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So, the weight is 11.1g, but that's probably give or take .1g since my scale isn't great.

Also, it's still nagging at me how much the indentation resembles the eagle on the reverse, so I tried to line up two pictures as precisely as I could, and came up with...

Am-I-Seeing-A-Little-Bit-Of-Reverse-On-This-Obverse?-1983-P-Kennedy-50c

Still looks super similar to me.
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11.1 puts at the light end of the tolerance range. I think it is a weak strike on a slightly thin planchet. The depression is from the eagle due to lack of die fill.
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That's really interesting. I hadn't previously considered a weak strike.

I wish it were less expensive to get these thing a authenticated lol
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