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Nice find! That's a Rim Cud and it's a nice one.  Errers and Varietys.
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Thank you E&V. Finally got one for the collection.  |
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Quote:Thank you E&V. Finally got one for the collection. You're very welcome and no problem! Thar's good that you have one for your collection now.  Errers and Varietys.
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Ah, bent Rim Fin isn't it? No break there, just a smashed down portion of a large finning. |
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I think it looks to clean to be a Rim Fin and too uniform IMO. |
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I am unsure, but there are indications on either side of it saying it is a Rim Fin. I am not good at determining the difference many times, though.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
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That's why I don't usually mess with these cause it is hard to differentiate between the two.
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Edited by Crazyb0
06/02/2018 4:55 pm
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Looks like one to me send it to jc and get it listed looks like the 1980 I got listed CU-1c-1980-24 Rim Cud |
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Looks like a rim Cud to me also. Send JC the pics and see what he says. John1  |
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Quote:A rim Cud is a die break that goes from this offset INTO the face of the die. Seems to me that once the break goes INTO the face of the die,the abnormality would no longer be a rim Cud, but a full fledged Cud. Sending to JC. Will let you all know the outcome. Edited by 11997755
06/02/2018 08:39 am
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Interesting discussion.. Awaiting boss' verdict..
I too have difficulty identifying between the two most times, especially when there's already something else taken place in that space.. The one thing I have found to be fairly consistant though is I see folded rim fins almost always having a roly-poly well-defined multiple edge-of-fold that doesn't reach the juncture of rim / field, as opposed to a smooth reach as pictured here..
Probably just me, however -- dealing with a false positive..?
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06/02/2018 11:10 am
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Because it resembles one, I think it will qualify as a rim Cud by the cud-on-coins guide lines. Note: I see none listed like it for this year and mint. To qualify as a rim Cud by my guide lines is another story. If the strike is misaligned or a worn collar is present, it often produces a false rim. Sometimes it fills in completely and sometimes partially resembling a rim Cud. A rim Cud is produced when the recessed design rim has chipped or broken away from the outer recessed edge of the die. The coins material will then try and fill the added cavity during the strike. 1.52mm is the US Mints specs for a cent thickness. I know most any roll of cents will show a variety of rim thicknesses, but you're less likely to see the thickness exceed that unless something has altered the strike or the die(s). So I always ask myself, before qualifying: 1. Does it rise above the normal design rim? Taking in account the design rim as a whole regardless of thickness. 2. Is there an identical rim Cud already listed with similar pick up points? To have more than one show up from the same die, would for sure aid in the confirmation. A Rim Fin is something of a different nature. Material that extends out from a gap between the collar and one of the other die or dies. The odds of a Rim Fin folding over in the exact form of the design rim after strike is, well sorry I don't have time to count that high. Thanks, Doug. |
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Thanks, Doug. |
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