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Numerian Ae Antoninianus W/Vndiqve Victores Reverse, Neat Coin

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Another find from an "unknown ancient coin" listing.

This is an AE Ant of Numerian (Carus' son) -- the reverse legend translates roughly to "conquering/victorious everywhere" or "conquerors/victors all around/on all sides" depending on if you take VICTORES as an adjective or a noun -- perhaps an intentional bit of wordplay.

Unfortunately, it was somewhat of an exaggeration...

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Numerianreigned as Caesar from 282-283 and Augustus from 283-284. He was the son of Carus and the brother of Carinus. As a future Emperor, he headed off with his father to wage war in the East while his brother stayed in Rome.

Numerian, moving with Carus, fought a successful (and easy) campaign against the Sarmatians and Sasanians, moving down the Danube, through Thrace, and then Mesopotamia, down the Tigris to Sassanid Ctesiphon; at this final stop, they encountered little resistance from the Sasanians.

Following Carus' bizarre and ominous death while encamped there (it was rumored that lightning came from nowhere and set fire to his tent) Numerian, apparently somewhat less of a warhawk than was his father, was pressured by the army into conducting an inexplicable retreat, allegedly due to prophesied ill augurs and misfortunes which were certain to befall any unlucky soul who dared remain beyond the Tigris; Numerian didn't garrison any forces in the area nor put up any fortifications.

This gave the Sasanians at Ctesiphon a bit of hope that they wouldn't have to fight a war and deal with an internal power struggle at the same time -- Galerius would correct that "oversight" at Ctesiphon 6-7 years later, but it wasn't until the mid 7th c. that the Sassanid Empire would finally fall to the Byzantines.

Numerian hung around for a bit with his army before they marched back to Rome; he never made it, dying either of a continuing and worsening illness or by being assassinated along the way. His prefect L. Flavius Aper -- who also had been his father's prefect -- announced his death to the troops in Bithynia.

The assembled armies soon proclaimed Carus' commander of the Imperial household guards, Diocles, to be the Emperor based on a story that Numerian had been slain by his prefect Aper; Diocles' earnest promise to avenge Numerian by executing the traitorous assassin responsible for Numerian's death (i.e. Aper, who just happened to be Diocles' only real opponent for the claim to Emperor) was carried out, and Diocles was on his way to becoming the Emperor Diocletian.
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Nice patina on this one!
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I agree nice patina and a nice coin with an excellent write up. Eddop is the expert on these.
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Lovely coin, Adam.
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Awesome coin
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Thanks! I'm looking to pick up a Carinus next to complete the "brothers."
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nice coin with nice patina . Victor/victores is allways a noun , never an adjective , if you use the word victorious in Latin , you have to use the participium praesens ( sorry , I don t know the English term) of vincere , to vanquish : vincens/vincentes. For the mintmark in exergue KAS : mint Rome , 7th offica (ζ) . albert
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Very nice! I have been hunting for an upgrade for him for a while, but his coins are not easy to snag in high grade... at least not at bargain prices! It always amazes me how he went from private citizen to Caesar to Augustus to Divus Numerianus in just four short years!
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Outstanding info, Albert!

My Latin 'education' consisted of half of a senior year course which I mostly slept through; so I have only some basic knowledge (enough to squeeze past Mrs. Lane's Latin I exam with a C- grade.)

The second half of that term was Ancient Greek and I didn't even attempt that; my counselor got me into Spanish Literature instead, which was taught by .. Mrs. Lane.

I suppose that would be the "adjectival participle of state/condition" - vincentes, I think, as you stated above? I should have paid attention in class.
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thanks paralyse .
The participium praesens = participle present , I found with Google .It is the form ' having' of the verb to have .
I had my first Latin lesson in 1959 ( 8 hours/week) and my first Greek lesson in 1960 ( 5 hours/week) and this during 6 years before to go to the university.For compararison , I had only the last 2 years 2 hours/week English and German lessons . It was a choice my parents made for me ,but many boys and girls had to do this in the sixties . It changed in the seventies .once at the university of Leuven(Louvain) , I orientated myself to Greek literature and made for my masterproof a work over the attitude of Herodote against the West Greeks in South Italy and Sicily : Magna Graecia .That's why I have so many coins from South Italy .To not forget this languages , I use old 19th century dictionaries,because this books give first a translation and then number of citations of ancient authors .
M Spanish is very,very limitated , only the words you learn visiting a Spanish speaking country . albert
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