Counterfeit/Fake Or Real ? Help Needed

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DanielGu New Member Portugal 22 Posts	Posted 06/04/2018 5:35 pm This is a gold tremesis of leon I, I am sure its gold because it weighs 1,45g and the normal weight of this coin is 1,48g but I am not sure if it is authentic.... doest matter how many posts I read I still have dificulties identifying the fakes from the real gold coins. I would love your opinion Report this Post to the Staff

echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 06/04/2018 8:50 pm to the community I believe your coin is genuine, it has a lot of scratches though maybe from someone trying to clean it. Report this Post to the Staff
Spence Moderator United States 34423 Posts	Posted 06/04/2018 8:57 pm @DanielGu, first welcome to CCF. Second that is a nice coin that you have there. Having the correct weight is a good start, although certainly not the only way to distinguish between real and fake. Your coin looks a bit wavy and scratched in multiple places as noted by @echizento, which suggests to me that it is a very soft metal (like gold). You could bring it to a jeweler or pawn shop (if such things exist in Portugal) to confirm that it is gold, but overall I agree that it looks pretty real. Can you share a little bit about how you got it? "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 06/04/2018 9:31 pm I can't quite figure out why the scratches are more in the fields, and the raised areas of the design are less affected. So far as the raised areas of the design are concerned, only the cheek and neck have scratches. Needs to be checked for style of die cutting and letter shapes. Report this Post to the Staff
Kushanshah Pillar of the Community United States 1554 Posts	Posted 06/04/2018 9:48 pm This link will take you to a selection of 42 Leo tremisses from CNG. Compare the overall robustness of style on these coins to the flatter, linear style of the op coin, the treatment of the skirt for example. https://cNGCoins.com/Search.aspx?PA...TYPE_ID_4=1# Edited by Kushanshah 06/04/2018 10:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff
arnoldoe Valued Member Canada 266 Posts	Posted 06/04/2018 9:53 pm Looks like a a fake usually sold by Spanish sellers on ebay. Report this Post to the Staff
sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 06/05/2018 01:32 am Almost 100% sure that it is made in good quality gold. If it was pure gold, 1.45 grams would only equate about $60 bullion value. That is small in relation of potential numismatic value, if genuine. After an on screen comparison of styles, I can understand why OP has suspicions. Report this Post to the Staff
DanielGu New Member Portugal 22 Posts	Posted 06/05/2018 03:36 am Thank you all for the help, this coin is not mine in fact, I have been collecting coins for years but I never got into roman and greek coins (because in Portugal those are not sold often) but I recently got a silver denar (septimos severos) and it just amaze me. Now I find myself having dificulties collecting ancient coins because the only way is through ebay and online sites... the amount of fakes scares me and its pretty hard to identify well crafted fakes (i know the right color, weight and roundness for the coins ... but details like the quality of the letters I find hard to identify given the photos) Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188952 Posts	Posted 06/05/2018 10:32 am to the Community! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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