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3 polker (1 / 24th thaler) 1622
Gustav II Adolf of Sweden (1594-1632)
City of Riga, Swedish occupation Since we are enjoying the historical context ... The citizens of Riga had a pretty rough time for an entire century between the mid-1500s and mid-1600s, facing constant invasions by Russia, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Sweden. Riga had been under control of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth since 1581 (as we will see with coins minted in Riga on this thread in the next month). But internecine conflicts between Sigismund III Vasa of Poland and the Vasa kings of Sweden (Charles IX then Gustavus Adolphus) began with Sigismund's being deposed as king of Sweden by Charles in 1599, and fueled a series of four wars between the two nations between 1600-1629, which were also seen as part of the 30 Years' War (Poland was Catholic and Sweden Protestant). In the current instance, Gustavus invaded Livonia in 1621 while Sigismund's armies were engaged to the south fighting the Ottoman empire. |
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Barely made it in time! Really wanted to share this coin in this thread... and utterly forgot it.   Bohemia, Ferdinand II, 1/4 kreuzer (kipper), 1622. 13 mm, 0.5 grams. Uniface. Copper or low-grade billon. KM# 280 (listed as "silver" and "Matthias II"), Numista 104706 (the picture is mine, slightly touched up, but due to a misunderstanding at page creation it does not have my copyright line). One of my weirder bargain bin finds. As I recall, the coin was literally at the bottom as I finished checking the bag - I was happy to pay 50 rubles (~$1.70 at the time) for it though! ( This much lower grade example, though with a clearer date, is currently being offered for 190 euros.) The identification thread for this coin, from April 2012 (about a month after I joined), was one of my introductions to the wonders of CCF. |
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1621 -- Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth / Kingdom of Poland, 3 groschen:   |
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Sigismund III VASA (1587-1632), king of Poland and Sweden 3 POLKER (3 Poltorak - 1 Kruzierz - 1/24 thaler) (16) 21, Poland .MONE.NO.REG.POLO. MONETA NOVA REGIS POLONIA new currency of the kingdom of Poland SIGIS.3.D.G (3) REX.P.M.D.L. SIGISMUNDO TERTIO DEI GRATIA REX POLONIA MAGNUS DUX LITHUANIA Sigismund the third, by the grace of God, King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania Krakow mint center shield: coat of arms of the king Wasa mint master: Miko#322;aj Dani#322;owicz, minister of finance (podskarbi koronny).  |
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Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth III GROS.ARGE.TRIP.REGN.POLONI GROSSUS ARGENTUM TRIPPLE REGNI POLONIA triple silver groschen kingdom <poland 1 6 2 1 SIG.III.D.G REX.POL.M.D.L. SIGISMUNDUS TERTIO DEI GRATIA REX POLONIA MAGNUS DUX LITHUANIA Sigismund the third, by gods grace, king of Poland, grand duke of Lithuania Waza dynasty (sheaf of grain) Krakow mint mint master: Miko#322;aj Dani#322;owicz, minister of finance, Royal Mint director (podskarbi koronny) (1616-1624) mint mark under POLONI Reference: Gumowski 1144  |
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1621 Nederlandse Rijksdaalder from the Dordrecht mint in Holland, picked up at an auction in Poland last year interestingly the portrait of this knight closely resembles that of Robert Dudley, Earl of Leicester (1532-1588), former sovereign of the revolting Dutch Republic.  |
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Nice rijksdaalder @1c5d! I see I am not the only one spending time (and zloty) at Polish auction houses in the last year  . I will add a third 1621 trojak from Krakow mint (less attractive than those of @pepactonius and @Petrus):   Edited by tdziemia
07/26/2019 06:51 am
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Ort, Poland, 1621  |
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My 3 Groschen, Poland, 1621  |
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3 Polker 1621, Poland  |
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@giljan, I think there is some possibility your trojak is a contemporary counterfeit. The reverse legend GROS.ARG / TRIP.REG / .PO LO. is not listed in the Iger catalog, only the legend seen on the other three trojaks posted today (GROS.ARGE / TRIP.REGN / POLONI). This reverse legend is very consistent across the years before and after, too (1620, 1622). Also, the letter G is not made correctly on your coin compared to to other examples in the 1620s. Last, the obverse punctuation is different, using : in some places. This is not seen on any trojaks of 1620-22. Maybe an unlisted variant, but the trojaks are very standardized by the 1620s with few variants (Iger has no variants for 1621), and the incorrectly formed G is maybe the best clue.  ON the other hand, the ort looks wonderful! Edited by tdziemia
07/26/2019 4:40 pm
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1621 klippe taler, Sanct Gallen, Switzerland   |
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@tdziemia. Thanks for making me aware of my 3 groschen. Taking a closer look it sure seems I have been wrong about the year. It looks like 1624, and then the letters PO LO seems more right?
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Yes, I did not think far enough about the possibilities. For 1624, there is a variety with these features, Iger 24.K.1a. http://iger.wcn.pl/coins?type=222 SO, I think this is the correct attribution for your coin. In 1624 the leg of the knight's horse kicks the last digit of the date ... |
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Wonderful Swiss klippe @1c5d7n5m!  |
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