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Bizarre 1918-S Lincoln Wheat Cent. Cud? Retained Strike-Through? Weak Rev?

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This is one of the weirdest wheat cents I've yet to come across. (It's not my coin, well, not yet -- wanted to see what CCF gurus say first.)

Obverse has something major funky going on at TRUST. Reverse is much, much weaker than the obverse, and looks like trailing above the remains of the reverse legend at the top.

I am curious as to whether obverse is a Cud, retained die chip, or something that was struck through and retained, and also, what gives with the reverse being so weak?

(Yes, the reverse has a scratch, but that's PMD...)

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 Posted 06/24/2018  9:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Will be interesting to see what the experts think. On the reverse I think it is just worn down. I have many that like that and just attributed it to age and wear on the coin.
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I'm thinking that it's just damage. It doesn't have the appearance of a Cud, Retained Cud, or a Struck Through. My vote is Post Strike Damage, because I can see pushed over and flattened metal on the obverse.
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That is a worn reverse do to circulation and the obverse is a lamination error or they are also called delamination. Or it could be struck through debris and retained it I don't know why it wouldn't be struck though so E and V could be right as well. The reverse is also boarder line woody.
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The differences between the obverse and reverse could be explained by the San Francisco mint switching out the obverse die, while retaining the existing reverse die. Especially during war years, mismatched die pairs aren't uncommon. The obverse die appears to be a much earlier die state than the reverse die. The motto, Liberty, and devices are sharp, and even the designer's initials are clear and strong. On the reverse, there is strong metal flow toward the rim at EPU, and the die has been in use a while.

I enlarged and sharpened the key area:

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If this was struck through, I would expect to see some details of "UST" on the extra metal.

Would it be possible to see a low-angle pic of the edge and obverse area where the mystery metal is located?
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Is it underweight?
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I don't own the coin; it's listed for sale on ebay, and I was curious as to what people thought of the weird defect on the obverse. I can ask the seller what it weighs, I guess.
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I'd pass. The area in question was not struck onto the coin, other wise the devices would be raised on TRUST. The metal may have moved from the reverse making it a lamination error. Not worth that much either. So if a bidding war starts, be the first to jump out of line.
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with coop.

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