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Seller Pleads Guilty To Selling Counterfeit Holders/Coins

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Saw this posted elsewhere and thought I would share it here.

https://www.NGCcoin.com/news/article/6691/

Edit to add that hopefully no one bought any from there but if they did be sure to double check them
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Thanks for sharing ..
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The plot gets more interesting with a google search. Posing as a ATF agent? https://www.google.com/search?q=jon...1366&bih=673
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The plot gets more interesting with a google search. Posing as a ATF agent? https://www.google.com/search?q=jon...1366&bih=673


Lol wow. No wonder he got their attention.
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I find It a bit amusing how NGC left out key details of the story and instead turned it into a PR play about how vigilant they are about identifying and pursuing NGC counterfeit holders.

Sometimes details matter.
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Womp womp...

Not only is he selling fake coins/bars/slabs, he decides to step it up with impersonating a Federal officer. Sure, that'll work!
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At least they caught the son of a bloop .
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You simply can't fix "dumb."
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He should have claimed he was a Chinese distributor
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I decided to check my only NGC graded coin. It is indeed the correct one on their website.
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I find It a bit amusing how NGC left out key details of the story and instead turned it into a PR play about how vigilant they are about identifying and pursuing NGC counterfeit holders.

Sometimes details matter.

I got the same impression that NGC was instrumental in this until I found the facts by reading other sources.

Ironic that another current thread was discussing faith in TPGs based upon the reliability of what TPG websites claim.

I would love to have seen a video of how he was actually caught:
From http://www.courierpostonline.com

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Kirschner also admitted he sold 49 counterfeit silver dollars for $1,000 to two victims at a Mount Laurel Costco in June 2017.

The victims, after realizing they'd been cheated, arranged a second meeting at the Costco store later that month.

For that deal, authorities said, they brought a niece who wanted to buy silver dollars.

Kirschner, who wore a badge and had a knife in his holster, allegedly told the buyers he sometimes worked undercover for the ATF.

The "niece," however, was an actual ATF agent — and Kirschner was arrested after accepting $1,600 for 55 counterfeit coins.
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Guess that's what ya call"plotted plants".


New Jersey? Could this joker be a relative of Jared?
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Can't see the article, the NGC website is still down for me (four days now).
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One down. Umpteen something-or-others to go. Glad he's behind bars.
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sadly he wasn't of interest while selling counterfeit coins, if he hadn't impersonated an officer he would still likely be slinging his wares.
this is not a victory for numismatics, just one for the 'govment
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this is not a victory for numismatics, just one for the 'govment


For both in this instance.
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