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1912 Barber Half Dollar

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 Posted 07/06/2018  12:26 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
This coin sold tonight for $468. I was going to bid on it, but got caught up in wondering why it was so cheap and whether it had been dipped. Couldn't get out of my head and didn't pull the trigger. Thoughts on grade and problems? Particularly whether you think this coin was dipped to the point of not grading straight. Thanks!

Frankly, I am kicking myself for not having bought it.

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 Posted 07/06/2018  01:17 am  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pretty decent luster, but is that wear on the talons, tailfeathers, and arrow fletches?
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 Posted 07/06/2018  02:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crazyb0 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That right there is why I don't like pix presentations as these are shown.they don't reflect real surfaces well. I see very few chatter marks, those two visibly are deep enough to shadow, should be more or at least rougher in texture. Was coin dipped? Let's just say it was treated well, how about that? No matter the, in excellent condition nonetheless!
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 Posted 07/06/2018  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as condition goes this coin is real nice . I Don't think it was dipped . Possibly a light cleaning NOT a detail designation . Could be very little wear on left wing near shield and Eagles left claw .
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 Posted 07/06/2018  08:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Steelers72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
64+ seems clean. Would like different angled pics in lighting though.
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I recognize the photography as Great Southern Coins, a seller with a reputation of selling polished or dipped coins.
Most likely AU-58 Details, cleaned.
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 Posted 07/06/2018  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's Great Southern there's a VERY good chance photos are doctored.

If not, MS 65 and a steal for that price. Left wing tip is the first thing to show rub. I see no rub there.
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Looks more like a sketch than photographs. Sorry, but I can't tell anything from those photographs re: surfaces/cleaning, except I don't see obvious hairlines. And as has been said ad nauseam, if GSC, run, run, run and don't lose sleep over 'missing' that one.

Common date and why not find one slabbed at the grade and with the look you want? Sure, not all the gems have been slabbed, HOWEVER, there's a reason why that one is not.
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If it's GSC, I wouldn't trust the photos at all.
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 Posted 07/08/2018  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably dipped but still great eye appeal. Dipping doesn't mean it would get a details grade from a TPG.
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The photo definitely seems off, so I'm not 100% confident in assigning a grade. It appears to be MS-65, but I would need to see some more photos before pulling the trigger.
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