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Serial Numbers You Don't Have To Ask About

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This is an example of low (and in this case a special pair) of serial numbers.


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Jimbucks, not a big bill collector yet, but answer me this. The * bill is a replacement, right? Then for what on this example. I see a J-A, and a J-*, does the star replace another end letter boo-boo? Guesss I'm asking how the plates layout and what the error predicated the need to replace. A specific plate series?
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Jimbucks, not a big bill collector yet, but answer me this. The * bill is a replacement, right? Then for what on this example. I see a J-A, and a J-*, does the star replace another end letter boo-boo? Guesss I'm asking how the plates layout and what the error predicated the need to replace. A specific plate series?


Let me suggest that you do your research on how modern star notes work. You seem to have a basic misperception. Best Regards.
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Let me suggest that you do your research on how modern star notes work.


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When someone asks a question here and we know the answer, we are obliged to give it to them.
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Yeah jimbucks, sorry I asked, foolish of me to think this was supposed to be an educational forum. Would have been extremely helpful to me to have at least pointed me in a direction of a resource. I hadn't a clue where to find this out, now I'm really no longer interested to find out or pursue the question any further. Best regards to you sir, have a great night!
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So that link has the following text regarding star notes:

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Note on star notes: If the BEP detects an imperfect note during the manufacturing process after it has already overprinted the serial number, it replaces the flawed note with a new one, called a "star" note. However, to use the exact serial number would be costly and time-consuming, so the replacement note has its own special serial number followed by a star in place of a suffix letter—hence its name. The BEP does not reuse the serial number of the note that it replaced in the same numbering sequence.

It unfortunately does not fully answer the question. I wanted to know too. Key word: "wanted". At this point, I can't say that I really care anymore either.
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The link is...okay, but as mentioned, does not answer the question completely.

Actually, the section in the link doesn't say anything I didn't already know, but it is quite basic.



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It would help if you explained how they are so special because to me they look like two 10s.
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Crazy - you know you are a lightning rod simply for your normally sharp, (and helpful) pronouncements.

Since you spend many hours answering questions yourself you should expect the same courtesy when you ask a question.

One of the MAJOR reasons this forum is so successful (although we need far more contributors) is that the vast majority of us are helpful and FRIENDLY. Knowledge passed should always be our mantra.
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When someone asks a question here and we know the answer, we are obliged to give it to them.


Absolutely agree.

Particularly when using a qualifier like "special", which is definitely an "in the eye of the beholder" term. Since I don't collect 10s, stars or low serial numbers there's nothing "special" about them to me. It would have been nice to know what is "special" about them to jimbucks.
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Great pairing of notes...same series, same district, same serial number, and even the same grade.

This is not an easy task. Maybe if I have time, I'll start a thread to thoroughly explain the printing and BEP use of replacement (star) notes.
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This is not an easy task


Agree, it wouldn't be easy to find these notes.

But the same would be true if you tried to do this for any series of notes. Does "hard to do" equate to "special"?
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Does "hard to do" equate to "special"?



50 some year old notes, matching graded 65, Low (under 100) matching serials, plus the star premium. That's beyond special. To buy those would probabley eat my entire coin and currency budget for the year.
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50 some year old notes, matching graded 65, Low (under 100) matching serials, plus the star premium. That's beyond special.


Ok. Then, here's another "special" pair

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Sold at Heritage Auction in May 2016 for a little over $650 (not to me).
I guess these are even "more special" (or is the first pair now "less special") because this pair has an even lower serial number

Sometimes "hard to do" means just waiting for someone else to do it. The HA page for these notes indicates that the
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Like I said, "special" is in the eye of the beholder. The point is that jimbucks didn't explain why he thought the notes were special and then when a question was asked he at first dismissed it out of hand, then ultimately provided a link without any clarifying information. Not the polite, educational response that most members of CCF expect or provide.
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