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Fun Friday Find 2004 D (Lmc) Cud

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*** Edited by Staff to Add Year / Mintmark / Denomination to Title. Titles are Important! ***

Greetings to all.

Ah fun find today.

Have a great weekend.

Rich
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Not a Cud,a large die chip.
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Wow, that is a cool looking nugget you got.Biggest I've seen yet
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Not a Cud. A Cud ONLY involves the rim. This is called an Interior Die Break. Very nice find and congratulations! Here's what Cuds actually are. cuds-on-coins.com/lincoln-cent-cuds-2000-2008/
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Right to all. I should have studied it closer. My bad again. Interior die break.
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Called a "Hornets Nest"
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This is called an Interior Die Break.


I may be wrong BUT NOT a die break, seems to be a huge die chip like John1 stated - also a very common place for the die to chip off creating the "nest" - I collect these die errors.

C'mon, don't mind if you post a million times a day BUT keep your information accurate. You seem to be right about 90% of the time BUT it's the 10% that may lead potential coin collectors down the wrong road.
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That one looks more like a potato. If you could get a better image. I would like to add it to my educational files.
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I may be wrong BUT NOT a die break, seems to be a huge die chip like John1 stated - also a very common place for the die to chip off creating the "nest" - I collect these die errors.

C'mon, don't mind if you post a million times a day BUT keep your information accurate. You seem to be right about 90% of the time BUT it's the 10% that may lead potential coin collectors down the wrong road.


Are you sure about that Mark? It's considered a Die Break if it's 4 square millimeters or longer. That's why I said Die Break, instead of Die Chip.

As Crazyb0 stated, it's a free-standing Internal(Interior) die break.


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A "free-standing Internal(Interior) die break (from http://www.error-ref.com)

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Definition: It's a rare event when a die chip is so large that it warrants being designated an interior die break. Interior die breaks should not be confused with " Cuds". By definition, a Cud is a die break that includes the rim and at least a little bit of the field.

Interior die breaks have no direct connection to the rim. They may have an indirect connection via a die crack or split die. Since voids left in the die face by natural fractures span an unbroken size continuum, there is no clear boundary between a "die chip" and an "interior die break".

Any void encompassing an area of 4 square millimeters or more qualifies as an interior die break. Any void that covers less than 1 square millimeter is a die chip. In between is a gray area. Die chips are commonly encountered in all denominations. In Lincoln cents they include "BIE" errors, "plugged" 5's and 9's, and "bugs in the wheat ear".
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You should include the date, mintmark, and the denomination in your titles.

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A "free-standing Internal(Interior) die break (from http://www.error-ref.com)

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Definition: It's a rare event when a die chip is so large that it warrants being designated an interior die break. Interior die breaks should not be confused with " Cuds". By definition, a Cud is a die break that includes the rim and at least a little bit of the field.

Interior die breaks have no direct connection to the rim. They may have an indirect connection via a die crack or split die. Since voids left in the die face by natural fractures span an unbroken size continuum, there is no clear boundary between a "die chip" and an "interior die break".

Any void encompassing an area of 4 square millimeters or more qualifies as an interior die break. Any void that covers less than 1 square millimeter is a die chip. In between is a gray area. Die chips are commonly encountered in all denominations. In Lincoln cents they include "BIE" errors, "plugged" 5's and 9's, and "bugs in the wheat ear".
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Wow. Lots of thoughts. Thanks. My last check of COC indicates an interior die break like Crazy notes. COC definitions leave a bit of gray area in my opinion. My 2 years of searching for these wonderful varieties and errors surely needs work. BTW I think I did include the coin, date and MM in the title. Maybe I should put it first. Thanks again. Rich. I am working on a better pic coop.
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There was no denomination in your title, so I inserted (LMC) in your title.
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Got it and thanks Fuzzy.
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This coin posted on COC as IDB-1c-2004D-01R. Thanks for all your help. Rich
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