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19xx- S LWC Major Greaser Date IGWT And Liberty-Lots Of Pcs

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 Posted 08/04/2018  12:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Check this one out - Like practically No devices on the Obverse.

Reverse - pretty sure most of this is from wear

Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks for looking

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 Posted 08/04/2018  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably not worth much, but nice find!
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 Posted 08/04/2018  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice find and congratulations! That's a good one!
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 Posted 08/04/2018  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure about it being grease. I just found a 1910-S LWC this morning, and it is very worn from being circulated.
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 Posted 08/04/2018  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any VDB showing on the coin?
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 Posted 08/04/2018  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aristarchus123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is difficulty to identify greasers with certainty on well-worn coins. It certainly looks like an early mint-marked coin.
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 Posted 08/04/2018  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not that I can see That would have been awesome.

So what is your thought on this one coop?
Greaser / Greaser + wear on the Obverse?

Thank you all for your input - it is much appreciated.

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I think you have a 1910-S. The top of the first "1" is rounded, and the front of Lincoln's vest appears to have the single triangle of a 1910.

Dr. Wiles has a catalog of the early Lincoln design varieties on Variety Vista.

The Newman Numismatic Portal has extensive materials on the early Lincoln designs. The design changes that occurred every year from 1909-1916 are interesting. One possibility - and this is just one of many explanations - is that the Philadelphia Mint used a completely different galvano each year through 1916. The mint had a Janvier reducing machine from 1906 (or maybe 1908) at the insistence of Theodore Roosevelt, on behalf of Augustus St. Gaudens, but Barber refused to use it. There is an excellent ANA E-Sylum article from several years ago detailing Barber's refusal to use the Janvier and his contract with a medallic arts firm in New York, which did all of the mint's reductions until Barber's reign ended in 1916.
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Great read fortcollins Thanks I appreciate it and will check out the V.V. website as well.
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 Posted 08/04/2018  5:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chase007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is more worn than it is a Greaser.But, not a bad find!
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 Posted 08/04/2018  6:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks All - That date area in particular though? Still leaning towards Greaser in that area - Pic #1 (above) is the closest and best of that area.

I checked the Variety Vista site and I think it is actually ODV-006. I am real good at matching these things up

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Much clearer photo! Yep, a 6 it is.

That would make it a 1916-S or 1917-S if the designer's initials are missing from the shoulder, or a 1918-S if the initials are on the shoulder. From your flat surface view, the last digit of the date appears rounded. That would suggest 1916-S or 1918-S, so the VDB on the shoulder or not would differentiate between the two dates.
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 Posted 08/05/2018  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool way of figuring this out - Thanks for lesson fortcollins.

1918-S it is then VDB is there (or at least partially there).

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I'm thinking the date is probably caused by a Grease Filled Die, but the rest of the devices appear to be wear. Interesting find
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 Posted 08/05/2018  6:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all - this has been a fun learning experience figuring this one out

Much appreciated
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