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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Also found as Manchoukuo. The reference sources I have found all stipulate a plain edge for the One Chiao (10 Fen) coin of the 1930s. But this has a reeded edge. Even the fakes I've seen have a plain edge like catalogs list. I believe the coin is genuine since it is the right size and weight and made of copper-nickel. So were coins made with reeded edges and the catalogs just don't bother to mention it? This coin is believed to be KT2, Y#8, 1935.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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What you have here is a forgery.
Look at the bad details the coin has.
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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The popular for the period greek pattern near the edge is totally out of shape.
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I agree the coin may be fake, but then what is the point? It is the right size and weight and has very little value.
I can agree a valuable coin is worth faking- but then why this one? They sell for about $15 more or less and are common.
Can you explain bad details? When I look at the coin in hand I don't see how it differs from images of normal coins.
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Australia
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Can you please take photos of obverse & reverse?
Honestly I own a counterfeit circulating Chinese 1 yuan coin which was about 12 US cents in face value. I presume everything above that is worthwhile counterfeiting.
I have seen 'counterfeit error' coins for sale.
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Yes I will come back to this in a day or two since I ordered a coin that is presumed to be genuine.
When it arrives I'll take a closer comparison look. I do see the Greek Meander Border does have breaks.
But I don't know how well it was made since the coins have narrow rims and wide rims.
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I did jump the gun and will provide this photo. I'm not a big fan of judging by pics. The coin looks much better in hand than the pictures I take. Maybe that Greek Meander Border is a dead giveaway- I just don't know what quality the genuine pieces had. The size and weight of this coin are correct. Generally, on a fake coin, one or the other should be wrong.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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I do disagree.
The coin does not look good, it looks fake.
All the details are wrong and too crude.
This is a very crude copy.
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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Edited by coinworldtv
08/15/2018 05:39 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The wide and narrow rim variety only exists in one year coin - 1936 5 fen if I recall correctly. I own a 1933 5 fen (undocumented)with a narrower rim as well.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Ok thanks for all the assist on this guys. I attribute the details on my coin as just normal wear since the size and weight are correct.
But when I get one or two others in here I'll take a closer look and report the findings.
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Pillar of the Community
Austria
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What wear?
The details are not only worn, they are completely different and wrongly represented, a typical thing for a cheap forgery like this.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The high points on my coin are smooth and low points better defined. It sort of has the look of worn nickel or quarter that would grade VG or F instead of VF or XF.
But that aside, one of my genuine coins arrived today, and after a much closer look with good magnification, I can see now that it is fake. So you guys that spotted this as a clear fake right off have good eyes. This coin had me fooled for a little while but that's what the topic was for. Like I said, the coin in hand looks much better to the unassisted eye and my pictures don't truly represent what I see. So anyway you guys did nail it and it is fake as I see it now.
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Update on my coin:
I did a better comparison of the two coins under a microscope and it's not hard to see a stark contrast between the surfaces of the two coins. In fact it even matches the surfaces of some of my other CCC's from other countries. I also measured density and found that the genuine coin is about right for copper-nickel and the suspect coin is about right for "German Silver". And you know this is an alloy of copper, nickel and zinc. So I buy into the fact that it is not genuine, so now I wonder if it might be a contemporary circulating counterfeit. That would be distinctly different than the typical fakes made nowadays coming out of China.
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Posted 08/13/2018 07:47 am
