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1964 D 25c DDO Cameo Directly Over 1963 25c

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 Posted 09/04/2018  06:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ahhlee to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
So I've been staring at this coin for days trying to figure out why it looks like a triple die on the four but the third mirror doesn't match up with the four's shape. Then I realized what if it was a previous year that's been stamped over. After I check 1962 image to see where the two was located in relation since the mirrors pretty closely match up to the six so I realized that the two sits close to the 6 and the way that it lays on the coins doesn't match the mirror on my coin then I checked 1963 and sure enough the 3s shape almost identically matches up to this mirrored mystery numbers that I've been staring at if anybody would like to take a look here's my photos it's really hard to get the Define shape of the three behind two stamps of 4 but if you match it in relation to the artist initials then you'll see what I'm saying. Here's a link to my drive folder that includes the best images I'm able to take with the resources I have at my disposal. Any info on this would be nice and does anybody know if a grading company would grade based on the evidence? https://drive.google.com/folderview...vqMsl0StyQim
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Here is the tutorial about uploading and posting images

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to CCF fellow Michigander.
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What you are proposing is a physical impossibility, because of the process of hubbing (making the dies) there are NO OVDs, overdates being made. That said, what you see is called Die Deterioration Doubling. As dies age, metal flows outwards from the force of pounding, the devices stretch, ND edges "deteriorate" wear inwards. The shifting to the SE is just that, not an error, just die wearing out.

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To CCF! Just a Environmentally Damaged coin. It's Post Strike Damage (meaning it happened after it left the U.S. Mint).
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Die Deterioration Doubling, not a doubled die.
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what you see is called Die Deterioration Doubling.


Ahhlee I agree with Crazyb0 and SilverDollar,they correctly described the nature of multiple doubling on your coin.
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Must agree as well!



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Personally, I don't see Die Deterioration, I see a chemically altered/damaged coin that was probably in the ground or someone's BBQ sauce for about 30 years. Still worth melt value
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Acid dipped. Machine doubled. Die Deterioration. Kind of the worst of the worst. Well it is still a silver coin worth melt.
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