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ID Foreign Medallion/Medal Help Please

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Hi. Thank you for the welcome. I came across some old medal I need help identifying. Any information would be helpful. Thank you.
Phil
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If you can give us a close up of the words, it would likely explain the whole medal.
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We have some members of the forum based in Belgium who should be able to help (but they are asleep at the moment!)

This appears to be a medal (not a coin) related to King Leopold I of Belgium, who reigned from 1831 until his death in 1865.

The reverse has a date at the end of the inscription. Looks like 1835 or 1836? As mentioned in previous post, if you can post a clear photo with the inscription on the plaque, that will help a lot. Laureate portrait of the king looks a lot like this one:
https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=l...=1098&lot=46
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finally awoke and back from work
I agree with tdziemia: a medal, not a coin, made in bronze during the reign of king Leopold I from Belgium

hard to decipher the reverse but I think I can read "harmonie" and "Bruxelles", so probably issued to celebrate an event at the music academy of Brussels

a sharper photo of the medal and the weight/diameter might help to proceed further
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Great!
Thank you tdz and 1c5. It is taking me some time to learn how to upload photos under 300KB. I am reading the directions and still practicing. It would be a terrific idea to post a clear picture on the inscription of the medal. When I get a photo that is clear and uploads I will be sure to post it along with the weight and diameter. Thank you again for the replies.

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I think I got it
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Weight is 40.3 grams and diameter is around 48 millimeters.


Thanks again,


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to the CCF!

I can't read the reverse but I do also believe this has something to do with music.

I hope you don't mind but I cropped your photo some to make it a little easier to read the reverse.

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Your medal reads "Contests organised by the Societe Royale de la Grande Harmonie, under patronage of the city council of the City of Brussels.
September 24, 1855.

The Societe Royale de la Grande Harmonie is a fencing club in Brussels which still exists.
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I find this rather surprising, as I also should have thought it has something to do with music. "Une harmonie" is a band or orchestra using brass and wood instruments. Perhaps the Royal Society started as an orchestra, but how it changed into a fencing club is unknown to me.

Something important: the engraver of your medal, Leopold Wiener, is a known engraver of many Belgian coins. He won the competition of engraving for a new effigy of leopold I in 1847. He stayed head engraver of the Belgian Royal Mint (he was never appointed mintmaster) until his death in 1891. Many coins of Leopold II were also engraved by him.
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Wow...interesting facts Bart. Music club to fencing, pretty neat. Also neat about Mr. Weiner. Thank you for the information. Greatly appreciated.
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