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Sasanian Ardashir I Fake Or Authentic?

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 Posted 09/28/2018  1:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Guys

I hope someone who is expert on Sasanian coins can help me. I bought this coin a while back but recently did some research on it. I can not find any example with same die on acsearch I do not have any complete reference book of sasanian coin with images to check so wondering if any sasanian expert can help me to know if this coin is authentic or not? To me the style of bust looks a bit odd but again I am not expert on this area. I should also mention that one dealer locally condemn the coin based on the fact that the silver rings with higher pitch .


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 Posted 09/28/2018  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your coin is genuine and a very nice example. Reference is Gobl III/2.
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 Posted 09/28/2018  4:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks fine to me as well. I believe the survival rate of Ardashir I drachms is very low, hence lots of variety with low populations for each.
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 Posted 09/29/2018  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks alot Ron and Finn for help. @Ron I checked the reference you said on the acsearch and although they were similar but I could not find any die match . for example the dot in front of the bust crown which is in my example was not in any of Gobl III/2 on acsearch. Is there any other resource or book I can find all varieties which include all die variations?

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 Posted 09/29/2018  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I may offer a suggestion, the closest thing to what you are looking for may be the sylloges:
Sylloge nummorum Sasanidarum
https://www.oeaw.ac.at/en/ancient/r...sasanidarum/
and Sylloge of the Sasanian Coins in the National Museum of Iran
https://spinkbooks.com/index.php?ro...oduct_id=217
Additional collections include SNS Israel, SNS Schaaf, SNS Tajikistan. SNS Tajikistan and more. A sylloge is a special presentation format for important collections, usually having quality photographic plates and detailed descriptions on facing pages for easy reference.
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 Posted 10/02/2018  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Guys

For those interested I only found one coin online that matched the hair and bust style of my coin. its actually impressive that this coin bust style quite rare. the referenced coin was unearthed in afghanistan which tesfify my guess or assumption that my coin was an eastern city mint.The mettalic analysis confirmed that my coin came from same mine with coins minted in hekatomplyos and Herat.


https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=164777


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 Posted 10/02/2018  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Guys

I have another Ardashir coin as well and was just browsing vcoins and found an identical coin same wear same die could this indicate they both fake? sorry I didnt create a new thread thought post it here since its Ardashir coin too. I appreciate your helps.
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Unless I'm missing something these two coin do not have the same wear. Congrats on having two Ardashir drachms I still don't own one. I don't see any problems with these coins.
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 Posted 10/02/2018  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@AlRashid, I'm not sure that I agree that these two coins were struck from the same die (at least on the obv where I have looked most closely). For example, compare the length and relative position of the two hairs behind the topknot on the portrait:

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 Posted 10/02/2018  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ron and spence so much for help. Ron, I love Ardashir so I got 3 coins from him the first one I posted and the second coin in the last post and one obol. Hope you get one soon but I heard from a dealer that recently there are fakes of it coming on market so you have to watch for that when you decide to buy it.

Spencer you have great eye to catch that small detail. what made me think they are same die was the presence of a lump of metal on the neck below beard on both coins.
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