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Jacquier was selling the unsold lots from the Gysen collection sale. I found this one in need of a good home. While it true that the coin has issues, it is also true that it appears in no references and that it is the only known example. I will be happy to add this coin to my collection. PROBUS, 276-282. Mint Cyzicus. A 2nd example, however CLEMENTIA TEMP / Q / XXI. 3.82 g. The only known example Acquired in December 2016. From the Phillipe Gysen Collection Ex: Paul Francis Jacquier Auction 45 Lot 1721 September 14, 2018  |
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Great addition. Congrats, Andrew. Always nice to be able to apply that label, "unique," to coins in one's collection. I'm lucky enough to own at least two for which the label fits - like yours they have blemishes but are very special nonetheless.
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I have puzzled over this one for half an hour now .......
What exactly makes this coin of Probus unique ?
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Agreed with Bob, it's always fun to own a coin about which one can brag, "it's the only one known!"
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Congrats on the addition. I'm curious what makes it unique also?
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Apparently it's a secret
Shhhhhh !
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I have been swamped at work the last few days and have not had a chance to respond. I do not know what makes it unique as I am not an expert on coins of Probus. However, P Gysen (the person from whose collection this coin comes) is an expert and declared this con unique. Having looked at a number of similar coins with similar legends my guess would be the combination of "XXI" in the emerge and the devices on the reverse. The cuirassed bust on the obverse is scarce but is known on other coins of Probus with the legend "Clementia Temp".
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I honestly don't see anything different about it Perhaps Mssr Gysen was ......... getting a bit patinated himself ? IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG Radiate draped bust right CLEMENTIA TEMP Q in field XXI in exergue Emperor holding rotisserie chicken receiving cabbage from Zeus  Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
10/04/2018 5:25 pm
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This site seems to have the most up to date info on the coinage of Probus. https://probvs.net/probvs/. Gysen is recognized there as an authority. It may be that the coin is a very rare but minor variant. For example, at the link above, there is a bust variant of RIC 905 which is virtually identical to orfew's and rvfvs' coins, differing only in style. Interesting thread. Edited by Kushanshah
10/04/2018 5:40 pm
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Nice coin Orfew from a great collection... I'm interested to see the outcome, if any, of the uniqueness of the op coin. FVRIVS RVFVS I think your photo and description doesn't tally with RIC 644 as this has the emperor holding a short sceptre? Great link KS very informative thanks....  |
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It is cuirassed, seen from reverse, without drapes. That's what makes it unique. A scarcer bust variant. A bit like mine from a different officina.  |
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Many thanks Martin. I hoped you would chime in and offer your opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
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Sort of like this ?  |
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That one is Antioch. Draped and curassed. Not just curassed. The coins above are Cyzicus.
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I was referencing the draped cuirass and not the mint .........
I really don't see a plain cuirass
In fact I see what looks like a round broach that would be a part of drapery
To me it appears a standard draped cuirassed bust
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Do you concur that mine is plain cuirassed? Regardless of whether you concur, my coin was confirmed by Dr. S. Estiot as one of the 5 known examples of the cuirasssed variety. I have not seen orfew's coin in hand but knew that on existed from my discussions with Dr. Estiot and that it sat in a private collection. I assume that this is that coins, whoch would make sense. If it were draped then it would be quie common.
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Posted 10/04/2018 04:39 am
