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If you haven't already, I highly suggest reading the book Illegal Tender by David Tripp. It follows the story and investigation from its very beginning through the legal sale of the supposed Farouk example. I agree the book is an interesting read, but keep in mind that David Tripp was a paid government expert in the Langboards case because his views on Israel Swift and the coins fit nicely with the US Government. |
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However, she may not have known exactly why the alleged Farouk coin was allowed to be sold, i.e. the export license. That was the "oops!" moment.
I feel fairly should she did as she turned them over on the advice of the same lawyer that had defended Fenton. |
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Why is that? I am sure they are innocent saints... The timing of their actions is quite suspicious, no? Like I said just rampant speculation about them and their motives when they had already commented on them with their own words on another forum. |
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I feel fairly should she did as she turned them over on the advice of the same lawyer that had defended Fenton. But that again begs the question: How many did she have, exactly? Maybe she was trying to do the "right thing" by returning them to the Treasury, but 10 of those in 2004 was over $4,000 in gold melt value and gold coins could and can be legally melted. It's one angle of many.  Yes, speculation even. As far as David Tripp goes, I found his book to be thoroughly researched and generally unbiased. I have not investigated the Langboard's case, so I cannot say why exactly he would be called upon other than his knowledge and research of the history/events. I will say that his book, in the end, presented more questions than answers because of the nature of the investigation and the prerogatives of the parties involved. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
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Not at all. The mint already took the position that they never made them, not his fault if they lied. My point is if they were found to exist it would be evidence that they were indeed minted and that would make the over-strikes illegal according to the law. |
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But that again begs the question: How many did she have, exactly? Maybe she was trying to do the "right thing" by returning them to the Treasury, but 10 of those in 2004 was over $4,000 in gold melt value and gold coins could and can be legally melted. It's one angle of many. Why would Longboards have the coins melted as the Langboards had an written agreement with the the US Government that the coins would be returned after authentication. The coins were pronounced genuine by the mint, but the coins were never returned after repeated requests. The US Government refuses to return the coins and while the case was still under trial, the mint has the 10 1933 coins graded. What gave the mint the right to have the coins graded while the Langboard case was still active? |
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Why would Longboards have the coins melted as the Langboards had an written agreement with the the US Government that the coins would be returned after authentication. The coins were pronounced genuine by the mint, but the coins were never returned after repeated requests. What's the argument here? If the agreement was there (I don't know), then why didn't the government return them? I suppose that's why I brought up the melting. Why would they actually think what the government considered "stolen property" to be freely returned? I guess I need to investigate the Langboards' case because not much of what I've heard of their actions makes sense to me.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
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I guess I need to investigate the Langboards' case because not much of what I've heard of their actions makes sense to me. You've heard a lot of nonsense overall (which everyone has) which really comes out in the trial. It's pretty straight forward why they did what they did and they addressed it several times. Looking into the case will very likely give you a different perspective or at the very least see the inconsistencies You can find quite a few of these from the various courts https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/USCOU...-05315-7.pdfOne of many articles https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-c...es-.all.htmlEdited by basebal21
10/14/2018 12:14 am
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I guess I need to investigate the Langbords' case because not much of what I've heard of their actions makes sense to me. Read the thread at CU "Did the Langbords file an Appeal about the 1933 Double Eagles". RHL in the thread is the grandson of Israel Swift and provides the Langbords version of what happened at trial, and how the coins were discovered in a safe, and why the decisions were made about the coins. Edited by Slider23
10/14/2018 12:31 am
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