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Two Perfectly Matched 2000 P Sacagawea Dollars. Even Down To The Finning.

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I have two perfectly matched 2000 P Sacagawea Gold dollars. They match the obverse of the die disturbance on the "Cheerios" dollars and even match the finning on the edge exactly. Pretty cool to have a matched pair! Tell me what you think!
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It is interesting information to know that not all the ones with the obverse die disturbance are Cheerios!as coop said ,they must have continued using the same die!!
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Yes it is Chase!
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Wow Jim! That's a cool little find! It's also new information to me as well! Thank you for sharing!
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Glad to share!
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They match the obverse of the die disturbance on the "Cheerios" dollars and even match the finning on the edge exactly.


I must be missing it. My aging eyes have been messing with me lately. Not seeing the obverse disturbance or die polish marks known on the Cheerio dollar.
http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page20c.html

Edit: now see coop's example of die disturbance that seems to match. I thought it was more like the die polish marks seen in link above.

Is there a link to known examples with some finning?

Interesting pair none the less, with the rim / edge section matching up as is. I'm still trying to deduce if die or collar or coincidence related. Thanks, Doug.
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Thanks Doug! Yes, interesting pair. I have looked at many Sacagawea dollars and these are the only two that I have found with this disturbance on the obverse. I know of no articles related to the finning on the Sacagawea dollar my friend. I wish I did.
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Well seeing Jim's example side by side the Cheerios example, I feel they are not from the same die:
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Something else I just noticed where there is a difference, on the Cheerios obverse die there appears to be polish flow lines extending from the bust towards the mintmark.
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on the Cheerios obverse die there appears to be polish flow lines extending from the bust towards the mintmark.


That's what I was thinking is the die polish marks are the die marker for the obverse Cheerios examples. Thanks, Doug.
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So seeing them side by side helps us to example the coins die betters. Looking from one image to another allows the eyes to catch these slight differences. Thus why I like side by sides better.
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Now, to figure out what caused the finning.
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Keep in mind the outside edge of the die is the fields. Any contact with the field will leave a dent. A dent on the dies field will leave a raised area. Thus the two different dies were affected on the same area.

Something else I noticed on the 2000-P Sac reverses is the lack of upper feathers, some upper feathers and the upper and lower feathers on the normal and Cheerios dollars:
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Possible die wear could be the issue on the normal ones for this year. But never noticed these before.
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