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Umayyad Gold Authentic?

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 Posted 11/07/2018  9:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add AlRashid to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Guys

I am considering to get this gold Umayyad coin it seems genuine but my only concern is the strange extra metal on the bottom rim. Does any one have any idea what could have caused this? Is this normal or suspect?


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 Posted 11/07/2018  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ar, this coin may have been turned into jewelry at some point in the past such as by soldering on a loop near six o'clock (which was subsequently removed).
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 Posted 11/08/2018  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree and IMO will effect the coins value. I would look for a better example.
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Thanks so much guys. The reason I like the coin is it looks very natural and authentic compared to many similar ones online and it has a natural residual patina on the devices . I always prefer patinated gold coin than cleaned ones . Will try to see if I can get a bargain from the dealer.
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The damage is significant. The value at this point is little more than melt ($150-175).
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Hi Kushanshah

Is that really bring it that low? Because Umayyad gold in general is much more pricey than Abbasid or other islamic gold. I see similar coins being sold at SARC for 700 plus. But I understand the ex mount reduces the price so I would say 400 would be fair price for this. What do you think?
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@AR, I know that your question was directed specifically to @KS, but please allow me to weigh in as well. Of course pay whatever you think the coin is worth, but I think that @KS has provided solid advice. This type of damage greatly reduces the numismatic value of virtually every coin.

You can still buy the coin, but your eyes should be wide open.
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"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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